Lost S6 – Epi. 16 “The End”
May 24, 2010 by nina
Filed under Lost - Season 6
I just want to start off by saying that I get it. I get it. I got it. I wasn’t always getting it. In fact, at least 45 minutes before the end I kept saying to Donny, “I don’t get it! Where are they going?! I get everything else, but where are they going?” Then, Jack asked one question and was met with a question in return, and I got it.
I know there are people that will complain they didn’t answer any questions in the finale. Well, they answered damn near all of the questions in the episodes leading up to the finale. I told Donny last week, “I think we pretty much got all the answers we’re gonna get.” Last night’s episode was really only going to answer one: how does it all end?
I think those that didn’t have the ability or desire to watch all the previous episodes will feel like there were too many loose threads. Not only have I seen every episode when they originally aired, I watched the majority of them again immediately after that to write about them and sometimes just because they were awesome. Then, we’d watch previous seasons before a new season began. Finally, we spent the last few weeks watching seasons 1-5. I would advise those that are still confused to do that. Because, honestly, I can’t imagine what people are still confused about.
ALL OF THAT SAID, I’m now gonna give my interpretation of what happened last night then I’ll do the recap (highlighting key areas that support why I think the way I do.) I read interviews with the stars and creators where they stated the ending would be open to interpretation in areas and I prepared myself to be disappointed. I was not.
When Juliet detonated Jughead it didn’t blow up the island, but instead time traveled the candidates back to the present where they were needed. I would even argue that maybe the bomb didn’t even detonate. Jin told Hurley (who had never experienced time travel on the island) that they had time traveled because of the light, noise, and headache. Maybe Jacob or the island itself intervened to bring the candidates where they belonged: in the present day where the island’s current protector was recently murdered. And if it did actually detonate, maybe it didn’t react the same way because of the island’s properties. I am leaning towards it never really detonating.
And I don’t think we can call the other “reality” the sideways world anymore. Clearly, that’s not what it was. It’s what we assumed it was. Just like in the season 3 finale we assumed the off-island clips we were shown were flashbacks, and they turned out to be flash forwards. But for the sake of this blog, I will continue to refer to it that way to avoid (further) confusion.
What happened, happened. They were transported back to present day, John Locke’s body was taken over by the Man in Black. Due to Jacob’s death, he was no longer able to take on different forms other than John Locke and the black smoke. He needed to kill the candidates in order to leave. No protector for the island meant no one to stop him from leaving it – his goal for centuries.
Meanwhile we were seeing this sort of purgatory that the plane crash survivors had fashioned for themselves based on the fact that their time together on that island profoundly changed their lives. As Christian Shepherd said, it was the most important time of any of their lives. They made a place where they could continue to live the lives they should have – had the island never existed past 1977.
Think about it, for Ben it was a world in which what happened to him on the island (being shot by Sayid, healed at the temple) was so traumatic, it caused his father to finally be a real father to him. They left the island in the evacuation and he grew up to be the man we saw. For Locke, it was a world in which Helen didn’t die of a brain aneurysm and agreed to marry him. I’m happy that even in his “purgatory world” his no good father still got what he deserved – he was a drooling vegetable. Jack was a father and able to do what he and his own father was able to achieve in life – heal and repair the relationship with his son. Hurley still won the lottery, but instead of it bringing him nothing but bad luck, it brought him joy.
There were still, for obvious reasons, ties to the lives they had truly lived. Think about when you dream. We create our dreams, but they are still limited to what we know. Like, if you don’t know quantum physics, but dream that you are a quantum physicist, you’re not busting out equations in your dreams because in your life you don’t know any! They also peppered this world with people they had encountered in their lives. George, the limo driver, was the man that died on the freighter because he didn’t have a constant. Desmond inserted him in his purgatory. The mercenaries that killed Ben’s daughter were the bad guys Sayid took out for shaking down his brother. And on and on and on….
What we saw in this sideways purgatory wasn’t happening concurrently with the actions on the island. As Christian said, there was no time there. Charlie was the first to get a “feeling” that something wasn’t right when he almost “died” on the plane. One by one, they were awakened, enlightened, whatever you want to call it. They became aware that, “Oh, we’re dead. And if we so choose, it’s time to move on.” Remember that Desmond said that Ana Lucia wasn’t “ready yet” and Ben still needed more time to process before he entered the church?
I think it’s very important that people get that there was no real time in this sideways/purgatory world. What you saw at the end wasn’t everyone dying. Juliet died in present time in Sawyer’s arms on the island even having flashes (deja vu, maybe?) of that moment of awakening in the sideways/purgatory world. “We should get coffee sometime…. we can go dutch.” Charlie died turning off the jamming signal. Jack died restoring the island after being stabbed by evil Locke. We don’t know how or when Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Hurley and Ben died. Again, Christian said that some of the people in the church died before him (Charlie, the Kwons, Sayid, Juliet, Locke, Boone, Shannon, etc.) and some long after him (Kate, Sawyer, Bernard, Rose, Hurley, etc.)
One of the things I found beautiful was that when everyone became “aware” there was no, “Oh, my God! What happened to you?” That should have been everyone’s first tip off. When they became aware, they knew, we are dead and this is the beginning of our afterlife and all you saw was joy, relief, love, acceptance and peace. Go back and watch the moment the Kwons got it. Go back and watch when Juliet got it. Check out when Kate said to Jack, “I’ve missed you so much, Jack.” For all we know, she lived to be 80 and is “seeing” her Jack again for the first time since leaving him on the island.
I just thought of the perfect example to explain what I’m talking about. Remember the end of The Titanic? Rose dies as an old lady in her sleep. Jack died decades before in the water when her selfish ass wouldn’t even take turns with him on the floating door. When she died, where did she go? Back to that ship that changed her life, back to Jack who looked as he did when she knew him, surrounded by the people that were there and shared that experience and she looked as she did then. Get it now?
My friend Mary summed it up perfectly: it was a place of gathering and waiting. A place they created so they could all find each other.
OK.. Now here’s the recap:
Previously on Lost: Jacob tells Jack where to find the heart of the island and makes him the protector. Locke says he’s going to find Desmond and use him to destroy the island. In the sideways world, Desmond starts gathering the plane survivors together.
And now…
The crate carrying Christian Shepherd’s coffin arrives in Los Angeles as Jack sits in his office at the hospital. Dr. Ben Linus begins his day at school while Ben on the island gets ready to help Locke. Detective Sawyer starts his day at the precinct while island Sawyer helps Kate dress her wound. In Los Angeles, Kate watches at Christian’s coffin arrives at a church.
Desmond signs for the coffin and instructs the delivery guy to deliver it in the back. He then gets in the car with Kate who wants to know who died. She scoffs at the name Christian Shepherd. He tells her that he’s her friend whether she realizes it or not. He also says that he wants to leave. (You know, move on.)
On the island, Jack fills Sawyer, Kate and Hurley in on the heart of the island and where it’s located. Sawyer offers to go fetch Desmond when they realize that Locke is going to need him. At this point, I’m all, “Noooo, don’t separate!” Hurley says he has a bad feeling about this and I kinda agree.
In Los Angeles, Hurley takes Sayid to the motel where Sayid kicked ass after breaking Hurley out of the insane asylum. He instructs Sayid to wait in the car while he goes up to a room. Charlie’s there, drunk and surly. Hurley tells him he’s there to take him to the concert, but Charlie ain’t having it. Hurley tells him it will be the most important thing he’s ever done. Charlie still won’t go. Hurley shoots him with a tranquilizer gun and puts him in the back of the car.
“What was that?” Sayid asked.
“That was Charlie.”
On the island, Kate wants to know why Jack took the job. He says he had to. They share some mushy talk and Hurley tells them it would all be really sweet if they weren’t all about to die.
Sawyer gets busted by Ben as he spies on Locke. He realizes that Desmond is gone, pops Ben in the face and leaves but not before hinting to Locke that they are no longer candidates. Ben is pissed cause he realizes that Locke LITERALLY meant he was destroying the island. Locke realizes there are dog prints leading away from the well.
Desmond wakes up at Bernard and Rose’s house. Bernard goes off to get breakfast. Rose explains they built the house in 1975, lived there a few years, but the sky lit up so she doesn’t know what year it is. She tells Desmond that after he eats, he gotta get the hell up outta there. They don’t want no parts of no drama. Bernard returns followed by Ben and Locke. Locke tells Desmond that if he doesn’t go with him, he’ll kill Rose and Bernard.
Rose is all, “You don’t have to go anywhere with him.”
Rose is gangsta!
Desmond agrees after Locke gives his word that he won’t harm them.
Locke asks Desmond if he knows where they are going. Desmond assumes it’s a place with a really bright light. Ben’s walkie-talkie goes off.
“What was that?” Locke wants to know.
“What was what?” Ben asks.
Ben is awesome.
It’s Miles. He’s trying to let Ben know that he found Richard. Richard wakes up and tells Miles they need to go blow up the plane.
Um, why is he on LAST WEEK’S plan?
In Los Angeles, Miles shows up at his father’s benefit concert and sees Sayid in Hurley’s car as they are dropping off Charlie. He calls Sawyer and tells him and they agree that someone should check in on Sun, the only witness to the shootout at the restaurant.
At the hospital, Sun and Jin are in the hospital when Juliet arrives to give Sun a sonogram. When she does, Sun gets memories of her life. When Jin looks at the sonogram, his memories return. I’m a big crying mess at this point. Juliet remains confused.
On the island, Sawyer catches up with Hurley, Jack and Kate. Jack tells them that it doesn’t matter if Locke finds Desmond or not – they’re all headed to the same place anyway.
In Los Angeles, Jack prepares to operate on Locke. He is confident that the procedure will work.
On the island, Miles and Richard prepare to paddle over to Hydra island. Miles notices that Richard now has his first grey hair. This means he’s finally aging and Richard realizes he wants to live. As they paddle over, they find Lapidus on a flotation device. He tells them they really shouldn’t blow up the plane since he’s a pilot and might need it.
Locke and his crew meet up with Jack and his peeps on their way to the light. Kate immediately starts shooting at Locke – Ben and Desmond hit the dirt and I crack up laughing. Locke tells Kate to save her bullets. Locke realizes that Jack is the replacement and thinks it’s an obvious choice for Jacob, but Jack tells him he volunteered. Jack says they’re all going to the light and when they get there, he’s gonna kill Locke.
Everyone is all, “Oh, snap!!”
In Los Angeles, Jack and Juliet are at the hospital. Turns out, they used to be married and Juliet is the mother of Jack’s son. Sawyer shows up to see Sun.
On the island, Jack tells Sawyer he thinks Jacob had Desmond brought there because he’s a weapon to defeat Locke. He’s not sure how though. Sawyer comments, “That’s a long con.” And I agree. But it makes sense. As they approach the bamboo field, Locke says it should just be him, Jack and Desmond from there on. Before they go, Hurley tells Jack he believes in him.
Oh, and as if that’s not enough, there’s a storm coming.
As Jack ties Desmond to the rope that will lower him into the light, Desmond tells Jack that when he goes into that light he’s gonna go to a better place. A place where their loved ones are, and where they don’t have to think about the island. He tells Jack he’s in that place to. They sat next to each other on the plane. He wonders if he can take Jack there too.
Jack says that what happened, happened and there are no do-overs. This needs to be done. Then the three of them prepare to go into the cave.
In Los Angeles, Hurley and Sayid sit outside a bar. Hurley says that there are rules so he can’t tell Sayid what’s going on, but he wants Sayid to trust him. He tells Sayid that he knows he’s a good guy. Sayid says that Hurley doesn’t know anything him, but Hurley says he knows a lot about him. Tow guys come out of the bar fighting. A girl runs out. “Leave my brother alone!” She gets pushed to the ground. Sayid rushes out to help her and … it’s Shannon! They each have flashes where they remember their lives together. And I’m a crying mess again!
Boone runs over and we realize it was all a plan to get Shannon and Sayid to remember. Apparently, Boone has already been enlightened.
On the island, Miles radios Ben and tells him, Kate and Sawyer that they have Lapidus and they’re gonna get the plane up and running. Claire shows up and acts all crazy again. She thinks they’re there to kill her for Locke. They tell her they’re not, that they’re gonna fix the plane and leave, but she refuses to go with them.
Locke and Jack lower Desmond into the cave. Locke wants to reminisce, but Jack points out that it’s not really Locke and that he disrespects Locke’s memory by wearing his face.
In Los Angeles, Juliet has to leave the benefit to go back to the hospital. She leaves David with Claire. Backstage, Charlotte wakes up Charlie because it’s time for him to perform. Daniel sees Charlotte and is immediately smitten. They don’t have a flash moment though because this isn’t about them. Perhaps they’ll have their own time.
Kate is shocked to see Claire at her table with Desmond. They sit down as the concert begins. Daniel and Drive Shaft take the stage and when Charlie sees Claire, he can’t stop staring. She is like, “Why is this creepy heroin boy staring at me? Oh, and also, I’m in labor.”
On the island, Desmond goes into this big of light and removes a stone from a hole in the middle of it. Everything goes dark, and the water into the pool stops flowing. The island starts to shake and the earth underneath glows red.
“It looks like you were wrong. Goodbye, Jack.”
Ruh-roh.
Jack goes to stop him by kicking his ass. It seems that whatever Desmond did, made him mortal and Locke can now bleed. (Wow, it was a long con.) When Locke realizes this, he busts Jack in the head with a rock and hauls ass.
In Los Angeles, Kate helps Claire backstage as her labor progresses. Eloise Faraday Widmore approaches Desmond’s table and says, “I thought I told you to stop this.” She wants to know what happens when everyone knows. Desmond says, “Then we’re leaving.” She asks if he’s going to take Daniel. “Not with me.”
See, she’s not ready for her son to move on.
Kate delivers Aaron and she and Claire remember. When Charlie shows up with a blanket, Claire takes his hand and then he remembers too.
Do I even need to say that I lost my shit?
Desmond walks up and asks Kate, “Do you understand?”
She asks, “Now what?
On the island, it’s raining and everything is going to hell. Ben pushes Hurley out of the way of a falling tree and gets pinned. Jack wakes up and heads to the cave looking for Desmond. He then goes after Locke.
Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley try to free Ben. Miles calls on the walkie and tells them they need to get their asses to the plane. Ben says they can take Locke’s boat. Yeah, after they get you from under that damn tree.
Locke is cliffside, looking out at his boat and preparing to leave when Jack shows up.
“LOCKE!”
He turns, sees Jack, and pulls out that big ass knife. They run at each other, one going down hill, the other heading up, in the rain. The scene cuts just as Jack jumps at him Gladiator-style.
Awesome.
They fight on the cliff. Locke stabs Jack and that explains his sideways self having a scar that he didn’t remember. Locke starts to cut Jack’s throat (also explaining those wounds) when Kate shows up, shooting Locke in the back.
“I saved you a bullet.”
As the island continues to shake, Locke tells Jack, “You’re too late.” Jack kicks him over the edge.
In Los Angeles, Jack and a nurse are wheeling Locke to his recovery room. The nurse asks why Jack’s neck is bleeding. After Locke is put into his bed, he starts to wake up. He tells Jack that he can feel his legs. Jack says this is unlikely. He moves the sheet back and watches as Locke wiggles his toes. When Locke does, he remembers everything. Jack doesn’t yet, even though he got a small flash of looking down the hatch with Locke. He’s still not ready.
Locke tells him they need to go, but Jack says he needs to see his son. Locke points out that Jack doesn’t have one. Locke tells Jack that he hopes someone does for him what Jack just did for Locke.
On the island, the rain has stopped, but the island is still sinking. The rope ladder leading to the ocean is all jacked up. Jack is bleeding badly.
In Los Angeles, Sawyer finds Sun and Jin’s room. They are preparing to leave. They are also amused that Sawyer is a detective. He shows them a pic of Sayid and Sun assures Sawyer that she is safe. As they leave, Jin tells Sawyer, “We’ll see you there.”
“See me where?!”
On the island, Lapidus gives Miles some duct tape and a manual to fix the hydraulics. Lapidus is all business and wont even talk to Ben on the walkie talkie. He tosses it into the co-pilot’s seat. Jack tells Sawyer to get Kate on the boat and to the plane. Ben gives the walkie to Sawyer and says if the island is going down, he’s going down with it. Hurley also wants to stay with Jack.
Jack tells Kate to get Claire on the plane. She wants Jack to tell her she will see him again, but he can’t. They kiss and tell each other they love one another and then he leaves with Ben and Hurley.
I hope people get that that was the last time they ever saw each other alive.
Miles is working on the plane with Richard. “I don’t believe in a lot of things, but I believe in duct tape.” Ha!
Sawyer radios Lapidus and tells him to wait for them. He says, “We’re getting off the ground while there’s still ground.” And tosses the radio aside… AGAIN!
“Son of a bitch!” That may be his last Son of a Bitch of the series.
In Los Angeles, Sawyer gets directions to the vending machines from Jack and is fighting with the vending machine, which refuses to drop his Apollo bar, when Juliet shows up.
She tells him that if he unplugs it and plugs it back in, it will give him the candy. He mistakenly unplugs the lights instead. When she hands him the candy bar, they each remember short flashes.
She says, “We should get coffee sometime…”
“I’d love to, but the machine ate my dollar. I only got one left.”
“We can go dutch.”
They hug, kiss, and cry and I nearly vomit from crying so hard.
In Los Angeles, Jack shows up after the concert has ended. Kate is there and Jack realizes that he knows her. She tells him that she stole his pen on the flight from Australia, but that’s not where she knows him from. She touches his face and he gets short flashes.
“I’ve missed you so much.”
He wants to know what is happening to him and she tells him she can show him if he’ll go with her.
On the island, Ben, Jack and Hurley make it back to the cave with the light. Hurley realizes that Jack is going to put the light back on, but die in the process. Jack tells Hurley that it needs to be him to protect the island. Jack’s purpose was to kill Locke and then fix the island. Hurley’s purpose was to protect it. Jack gets Hurley to drink some of the water and Hurley becomes like Jack. Ben and Hurley lower Jack down into the cave.
Lapidus gets the plane running.
Jack ties Desmond to the rope and tells him he’s done his job. He needs to go home to his wife and son. Jack will handle putting the light back on. “See you in another life, brutha.”
Kate and Sawyer find Claire on the beach. She doesn’t want to leave because she knows the island made her crazy and she doesn’t want Aaron to see her like that. Kate pretty much smacks the bitch out of her crazy talk and they head for the plane.
Sawyer tries radioing Lapidus, but the walkie is on the floor and Miles and Richard are busy giving him direction on how to back the plane up without hitting trees and shit.
They hit the runway and see Sawyer, Kate and Claire. Richard and Miles help them aboard.
Jack struggles to hold his insides inside as he moves the stone back to the middle of the pool. He finally gets it into place just as the plane is taking off.
Jack lays by the stone as things start to settle down and the water begins to flow again. The light turns back on. He laughs and cries with relief.
In Los Angeles, a cab drops Locke off at the church where Christian’s body was delivered. He’s still in a wheelchair. Ben is sitting outside the church. Locke asks if everyone is already inside. Ben says most of them are. Ben then apologizes for what he did to Locke. He says he was selfish and jealous of John. Because John was special and he wasn’t. Locke forgives Ben. Ben says he still has things to work out and that he’s gonna stay there awhile. He also points out that Locke doesn’t need to be in the chair anymore. Locke stands, says goodbye and walks into the church.
On the island, Ben and Hurley have pulled up Desmond and Ben says that he thinks Desmond is going to be okay. Hurley realizes Jack is gone and that he is now the island’s protector. He asks if Ben will help him out and Ben says he’d be honored to. Ben also points out that Hurley doesn’t have to run things the way Jacob did.
In Los Angeles, Hurley comes out of the church and asks Ben if he’s coming in. Ben says no. Hurley tells him that Ben made a great Number 2. Ben tells Hurley he was a great Number 1.
Kate and Jack arrive and she tells him they are there because it is the church where he was going to have his father’s funeral. She tells him to go around back and she’ll be waiting inside.
On the island, Jack wakes up in the exact spot the Man In Black was washed up on when he died. He stumbles through the jungle.
At the church, Jack enters a room and finds his father’s coffin. As he touches it, he gets the flashes and finally lets go. When he opens the coffin, he finds it empty. His father shows up and tells him that Jack is dead. They (the crash survivors) made that place (sideways world) as a place to meet and move on. This is because they were all so special to one another.
As Jack makes his way into the church, his life on the island comes to an end just as it began – the bamboo field, with his father’s tennis shoe hanging from a piece of bamboo, and Vincent the dog at his side. The Ajira flight soars overhead and he knows his friends made if off the island before he dies.
Everyone at the church embraces and takes seats at the pews. Christian Shepherd exits the church letting in a bright light. They all look at the light, comforted, happy, and at peace.
The final shot is Jack’s eye closing as he dies.
Matthew Fox said that if they did their jobs, the finale would be beautiful.
I think they did their jobs.
What do you think?









Nina is a 34-year-old mother, wife and writer who spends her days blogging, studying, changing diapers and watching ridiculous amounts of TV. She currently resides in Atlanta, Georgia, with her husband, two children and three TiVos.




amazing story, i just love the twist.
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LikeI have always been very moved by Rose and Bernard's relationship. Rose and Bernard. Sawyer and Juliet. I get weepy just thinking about them.
I was completely satisfied with the ending. This is coming from someone who had given up on the show the middle of season 2. but got roped back in by my coworkers, and that damn Nina begninning of season 3.
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LikeI loved the emotional aspects of the ending, the awakenings and the coming together so they could all cross over together. I just expected to know more about how and why the island is what it is, but in the end I think I'm just going to have to accept that the island just IS. I think they purposely didn't explain the light and the cork of evil because they were trying to hammer home that it didn't really matter how or why, it only mattered that it WAS. They know we wanted more, they proved over and over for the last 6 years that they could have given us more if they wanted to, but in the end they wanted us to see that those things weren't the things that really mattered. So, I've let go of my desire to know more and made peace with what they wanted to show us, otherwise I was going to make myself crazy wondering about the details that were never explained.
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Likehey what a brilliant summary by all you guys. I get it, I got it, I remembered bits and pieces. But I still have issues.
The island, they never really explained the whole thing about it, when Ben turned the wheel, oh yeah the ships wheel, like how that got there, he turned it, the island vanished and he woke up in a desert, next to a DI training camp somewhere in africa!
And what about the Others ? The Korean guy at the temple, Sayyid being brought back to life, the whole evil thing etc
and in the 1st/2nd series, walt being kidnapped ? pregnant women not being able to give birth and losing the babies in early pregnancy, as Juliet said.
and then Daniel and Desmond, with Daniel's time travel, his book of notes, his mother in the church, which I presume is the same church when they all "went back" in series 5, and how Desmond had to follow the book, was that the pugertory or real life?
and do we remember the black guy, think he went onto start in something else sci fi, but he was like going round interviewing everyone when they were young to see if they had the gift, we saw him with a young Locke and with Hurley in the mental hospital.
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LikeDan, I'm about to blow your mind. Ready?
1. Eloise explained (in season 5) how the island was discovered and that the energy there is what made it special. The island moved through TIME and space. There are other points in the world that has that energy too and those are the "spots" you can be transported to when the wheel is turned. Remember the episode where we got the history of all the people Widmore hired to go to the island? Charlotte was already chasing down the island and it's connection to the DI because she was looking for the place where she was born. She was in... oh crap, maybe India?, and found an old DI site. So, the DI hadn't just set up at the island (although that was the MAIN place), but other mysterious "hot spots" with high levels of electromagnetic energy.
2. What about The Others? The Others were always people that were brought their (either by plane crash, shipwreck, or something other "accident") by Jacob. Some of them (like John Locke) fully embraced the island and accepted that it was their destiny to be there. I think Cindy, the stewardess, might have been one of them.
The Korean guy was explained. Jacob seemed to collect broken people. People he found to be like him. That guy had just killed his son and Jacob made him a deal; he'd bring his song back if he came to the island and protected the temple. This, to me, is another indication that Jacob was not ALL good. He was flawed. I think the line where his brother told him, "One day you can make your own game and then you can make your own rules," was key. He needed help protecting that island (hence Ilana and the other bodyguards, Richard, Temple guy, etc.) and wasn't above manipulating people to do it.
I think Sayid was brought back much the same way Ben was in the temple waters. They warned that Ben would never be the same and the same was true with Sayid. But I think they both showed that you still have free will and make better choices (Ben saving Hurley, Sayid sacrificing himself to try and help his friends on the sub.)
Walt was taken because he was special. He could make things happen and the Others wanted to study him. The kid that played him though, was going to outgrow the timeline of the show so they had to figure out a way to write him out and they did that by making fulfill the promise his people made that Walt and Michael could leave if Jack were brought to the other side so he could operate on Ben.
Women couldn't deliver on the island AFTER the incident. Remember, a few days before the incident, Ethan was born on the island with no problem. After that, they explained that the button set-up was devised to keep the energy from building up and screwing everything up. But it still effected the island in such a way that when children are conceived on the island, the mother doesn't survive childbirth. That's why Claire was important. Juliet explained in season 3 that Ethan (as a mole) was tasked to take her blood samples and also inject her with something that Juliet had been working on to try and fix the problem. One night, as he was doing that, she woke up and flipped out and he snatched her (improvising.)
Everything that happened with Desmond prior to season 6's sideways story was real life. He time traveled, he went to Eloise in season 5 and learned about the island and delivered the message that they needed her help. All of that was real.
That black guy worked for Widmore. Widmore was always watching those "hot spots" because he was obsessed with getting back to the island. When John Locke came through, he tasked that black guy with helping Locke contact all of the Oceanic 6. BUT I think he worked more for Jacob. Remember when Locke first lost use of his legs, he was Locke's nurse and he is the one that pushed him to go on the walkabout and then be on that plane ultimately. He told Locke years later, "It's my job to get people to where they're supposed to be. That's a Jacob thing. Totally. And he wasn't interviewing people. You're thinking of when Richard went to see Locke as a child. He only did that because of Locke's time traveling.
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LikeTHREE SNAPS IN Z FORMATION!
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LikeI think there will be a new series based on the origin of the island and its mysteries
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LikeI totally got it too. It took me some time to process but I totally got it.
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LikeI just hope they don't have a sequel where Hurley and Ben do a Fantasy Island type thing, now that Hurley is in charge and all, though that could be interesting. (I am kidding, but who knows with ABC) The missing Walt thing does make sense now reading what you all wrote.
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LikeAs I sit here accepting that my 95 year old grandfather died today, your theories, your assessment, not only resonate with me, but give me this beautiful feeling of hope and peace...I have always believed that the afterlife is what we each create it to be.
Beautiful. Totally worth the wait. Thanks for re-exciting me about this show.
xo
J
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LikeYou are so welcome!
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LikeJordan, I'm sorry to hear about your grandfather. *hug*
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LikeI really liked the ending and like you I got it. I totally got it.
I had too many emotions when it was all over and literally felt wrung out.
I can't wait for my complete boxed set to get here so I can start all over again with it.
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LikeI just preordered the BluRay set. It is my birthday present to myself.
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LikeWhen you guys watch it again...
After Sun remembers, Jin doesn't remember till he sees the sonogram. Then they're both remembering. They cut away from the flashes for just a second to show you Sun's face as she is laying in the bed. The way she squeezes her eyes tighter at that moment. HOLY SHIT!
I'm not just talking tears, but it has my ass bawling with big old snot bubbles!
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LikeThat was the point at which I totally knew what was going on in the LAX alternate, as it happens.
Sun and Jin were, I think the first people we actually saw flashing back to their own deaths, which was telling in itself, and suggested a lot of time-bendy, but the fact that they were then so serene afterwards made it pretty clear that what we were seeing wasn't straight-up alternate or even "real" real.
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LikeFantastic write up, Nina. I actually want to go back to season 1, knowing what the ending is, and seeing if my perecption changes. Everything was a total suprise the first time around and I ended many an episode screaming "WTF?!".
I still may. Maybe just screaming.
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LikeThanks! I highly recommend going back and watching the complete series.
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LikeAnother thing:
I love that Eloise Hawkins (who was always so in tune with the way time traveled worked and is the one who ultimately explained how the island was discovered) was fully aware before anyone else what "world" they were living in and she was quite happy to have it stay just like that. Even if it is a bit sad. We assumed she wanted Desmond to stop because she want her son to go back to the island or worse return to a reality where he is not only dead, but dead because of her.
Instead, she just wanted more time in this "purgatory" where she had her son AND her man (Widmore.)
I think Daniel was aware of where he was too. Maybe not FULLY, but he knew something was up. Remember in the episode "Happily Ever After" when Desmond was awakened? Daniel was going on and on about seeing Charlotte and the possibility of something not being what it seemed. Had he already traveled to the future where he saw Charlotte backstage? OK THAT part might be a bit of a stretch, but I truly believe that once he and Charlotte have their "a-ha!" moments, they'll be moving on.
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LikeI don't find it a stretch at all-in fact-it brings me back to the episode where Daniel first coined the "Constant" idea (and when we all started making our, "Desmond is my constant" Flair), perhaps he had seen this future to an extent and knew that some of this was going to happen. Perhaps he stuck around because he "saw" what happened/or would happen, but wanted to wait until Charlotte was ready, which is also why Eloise got to keep him longer, that, and she wasn't ready for him to "remember" that she was responsible for his death.
So not that everyone hasn't already put this together, but it's fair to assume that Penny and Daniel were siblings, yes? I believe that in the episode where we saw Desmond in the side-ways talking to Eloise about Penny, that Eloise was in fact her mother, no? Was she her mother in the real world, were her and Widmore always together (which is how he could find the island?) or ...?
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LikeThey're siblings, but only half. Eloise was an other and Widmore knocked her up on the island. Penny's mother was a woman off the island. That's what got his ass banned. Jacob had that no leaving the island rule and when Ben found out that Charles had not only been leaving, he'd knocked up an outsider, that's all he needed to get Widmore banished and take his place as the leader of the Others.
Remember, Jacob didn't intervene. He had Richard to be his eyes and ears, but for the most part, he left people's actions up to their own free will.
Anyway, I'm wandering... so remember when Widmore ordered Ben and Ethan to go kill Danielle, but Ben realized she had a baby and couldn't do it. So he took the baby and challenged Charles in front of everyone, "Does Jacob want this baby dead or do you want it dead?" Well, when he went to see Widmore off at the sub, Widmore told him that if she was meant to be dead, it will happen. The island will demand it and then what? Then he told him, "I'll be seeing you, boy." I LOVED the way he called Ben "boy."
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LikeI keep forgetting that for years, Jacob was almost like a mythical creature that we didn't even see in physical form, let alone his having conversations with people.
I wonder now how much Jacob actually communicated with Ben, or with Richard who shared things with Ben because he had made him the leader of the others and he had to have some clout. In fact (I've only seen most episodes once, maybe twice, so it'll be interesting to watch the entire thing again with new eyes) if I recall correctly, isn't that why Ben was so jealous of Locke, because he had never spoken directly to Ben, or showed himself, but did to John?
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LikeHoly cow! I forgot about Widmore and the baby, too. So, basically, Ben couldn't have saved Alex anyway. He tried. Many times.
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LikeYup! He brought Locke to that cabin (faking it) and was shocked as shit when Jacob really spoke to him. BUT I think it was the MIB posing. I think there was a time when they had old smokey trapped in that cabin. Remember when Ilana and her people came to the cabin looking for Jacob but found it all messed up and w/ the ash circle around it. Well, one of Jacob's bodyguards also sprinkled a circle of ash around him in the statue and the smoke monster couldn't cross it.
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Likei kinda think that Ben was always dealing with the MIB when he thought he was talking to Jacob. How would he know, he never saw Jacob until the statue. I just cant reconcile Jacob telling Ben to kill all the DI
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LikeMark, I can get behind that. The only problem with that might be that Richard (who we know talked to Jacob) would have had to have been privy to the inconsistencies.
AND, Richard was the one that met with Ben and helped him plan it. You know, that brings me to a point I've made before. Jacob wasn't necessarily ALL GOOD or ALL BAD. We saw that in "Across the Sea." He would do anything to protect the island. Just like his mother before him.
If the D.I. people were getting close to that power/light (and we know they were), I could TOTALLY see him sanctioning getting rid of them. That was his job.
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LikeMary, comments are getting so deep we can't nest all of them any longer...wait until this blog is a few days old, it'll some loooong threadness going on ;)
"I love, love, love that you made this correlation and put it into words. All these things float around my head, but getting them out of my lips is another issue entirely.
I believe that we will be in a “place of perfect peace and understanding” (as I told Nina a nun said to me once about my grandma), so we may very well understand “Life, The Universe, and Everything”, but it’s the relationships that will bind us beyond this life."
Amen.
What's funny, is that I have always found my beliefs very hard to articulate, and my thoughts on the afterlife even harder to explain, but so much came together in my head after last night, and I can't even describe what I feel to have my favorite storyline in the history of ever provide me with that vehicle.
Something tells me I don't need to.
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LikeI didn't find the finale difficult to understand at all. I will admit, however, that any lingering questions I have are most likely a result of watching most episodes after/while drinking too much wine. I could infuriate you by posting them all here, but I'll spare you and just plan on watching the entire series later in my pregnancy when I don't want to move for a week straight.
I thought they wrapped things up beautifully, and I've already enjoyed imagining what the island under Hurley's rule was like. I like to think that it involved lots of bonfires on the beach, conga lines, and hugs.
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LikeLMAO @ Lexie!
Also, you should go ahead and post your lingering questions here. I'd love to see Nina lose her shit!
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LikeLexie, don't listen to Mary! I mean, do post your questions! I promise not to lose my shit. Like I said, I know not everyone has watched the series as much as I have. And when I buy all six season on BluRay in August, I'm sure I will be like, "OH, I forgot about that!!!"
Like, remember the bird that said, "Hurley?" What up with that?
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LikeNina, after all of the recent mentions of the Hurley-Bird, I had to youtube it because I had no idea what in the eff people were talking about. Now I wonder if I missed an entire episode because seeing it didn't spark anything either.
I think it saying, "Hurley" was a stretch, even though Sawyer and the rest in proximity agreed they heard it as well. I grasp to find any significance to it, so if you do, please update us (okay, me)
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LikeOk, here's a few things that have stumped me: Seeing as how Sayid was willing to... oh man I can't even remember what he was going to do... as long as he was promised that he could see that woman again (what's-her-name whom he loved before coming to the island), doesn't it seem strange that he is reunited with Shannon in their after-life? I know that Christian Shepard said that their time spent on the island was the most important time in their lives, but with the sentimental tone of the episode, it would have made more sense to me if Sayid considered the most important time of his life to be that in which he was with that woman.
Secondly, aside from the fact that everyone has grown attached to the island, why would anyone care if it was destroyed? And similarly, I wish they would have been more clear about what would have happened if evil Locke had gotten off of the island, and why it concerned everyone so much. I'd be all, "Good riddance, Smokey. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to enjoying my smoke-free tropical paradise." (Ok, ok, I know that he had to first kill everyone to get off the island, which would rightfully concern them.)
Lastly, for now, at least, if going down the waterfall and in to the light turned Jacob's brother into the black smoke, why didn't it do something similar to Jack? My husband kept insisting that Jack was going to turn into white smoke, which would have been a little cheesy, but I understood his logic.
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LikeI'm obviously curious to hear Nina's take on this, but I think it's because in purgatory, you go through different phases, or realms, if you will, in which you meet with and reflect with those that deeply affected your life on the Earth, or the physical place.
Think of them almost as rooms if that helps.
In this realm, it was Sayid reuniting with his Island friends and his unrequited love for Shannon, and her also with him, Boone, and the other Losties. However, once the deal with that phase of their former life, they might then move on to other phases or realms. Sayid would go on to share time with Nadia, Shannon might be with her parents, or other lovers...it's infinite and the time is eternal.
It doesn't mean to say that, for instance, Jack and Kate couldn't spend an eternity together, but perhaps they might decide to part ways to deal with different stanzas from their physical existence. Perhaps Kate will go on to face her mother, or her mother's lover whom she killed. Maybe Jack went with her, maybe she/he decided she should do it alone.
The idea of time is only for the physical world in which we live. Once we leave this life, it no longer exists. Least, that's what I believe-and I believe was part of the message of the ending of this story.
I could cite examples, such as Eloise wanting to keep Daniel with her longer, or he needing to wait for Charlotte to have her awakening, or Ana Lucia not being ready, I mean really, that part of the postulation is endless.
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LikeI have a simpler response. I'm gonna go back and look at the two episodes where it was actually discussed, but how do we know Sayid was talking about Nadia when he made his deal with Locke? Secondly, this is one of those things where we just have to accept what the story is (maybe not like it) - the writers decided that for Sayid his great love was Shannon. Let's not forget, he DID love her. His speech at her funeral was beautiful.
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LikeI made the mistake of trying to read CNN's iReport commentary. It was mind-numbingly ridiculous and the confusion still rampant.
So I did them all a favor and linked them to this.
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LikeI loved how you summed everything up for everyone! The Titanic anaology was PERFECT!! Thank you!!
Loved the ending of Lost and will miss it!
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LikeOH and I totally had the same relization about "Titanic" too.
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Like-I love your interpertation and that's the one I'm going to go with.
-I loveeeeeeeeed the scene with the Kwon's and Juliet. That's when I was beginning to realize that everyone was getting their happy ending. I was crying pretty much the 2.5 hours the show was on. Tears of joy!
-They gave Sawyer and Hurley the best lines of the show. Sawyers one liner about the burning bush had me dieing and Hurley telling Kate and Sawyer that their little love talk would be sweet if they weren't about to die. LMAO
-I love that they went back to the "treking through the jungle" music and the "we've been seperated so long, good to see you, feel good" music.
-I really didn't expect Kate to come through in the end. FINALLY she did something other than munipulate Jack or Sawyer with her lady parts.
-I was only a little disapointed because we still have unanswered questions and I feel like the writers didn't know how to answer them so they wrapped it into a "they are all dead" package and put a happy ending bow on it. Like what was up with Walt? And Aaron? What exactly was the "darkness" that Sayid and Claire had inside of them? What happened to Richard? I feel like he should have been included in the end with them.
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LikeSee my comment above re: Walt
For discussion of Aaron: http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/on-lo...
Not sure about the darkness in Sayid and Claire.
I think Richard went to wherever his wife was - IF he died. Remember, he was granted immortality, so he may have gone on living and that's why he wasn't with them in "not-sideways".
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LikeSee, I don't think we can assume that everyone not in sideways was still living because real time didn't apply to sideways. You know? I thought Richard might have a hard time adjusting to modern life once he left. And when the plane took off I was thinking, "He's probably shitting his pants." THEN I remembered that Richard has left the island many times. He's seen street lights and computers and iPods and cell phones. I would imagine that he had stuff in place "in the real world." Remember, he and Ethan left the island all the time to do Ben's bidding.
Also, they already hinted that Hurley might run things differently. I think Jacob put that island on lockdown because it was easier to control people and protect it. I'd like to think that Ben was right and that he and Hurley found another way. Of course, this is the stuff that is open to speculation and your own imagination.
So, in Nina's World of Lost, Richard left, made a life for himself and died an old man in his sleep. His place of gathering only included Isabella... or maybe family he made after leaving the island.
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LikeI don't think they're all living. I think they're with whoever was with them at the "most important time" in their lives.
I just said that in Richard's case, because he was immortal, he may not have died yet. But, if he did, he's definitely with his wife.
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LikeSee, I don't think he was immortal any longer, just as Locke/Smokey/MIB wasn't any longer. When the hole was capped, and Locke was no longer un-hurtable, Richard got some gray hairs. Meaning, now that he wasn't immortal any longer, he could finally start living.
And I think it's completely spot-on that his side-ways included Isabella and any one that he might've met after he left the island. He was an important figure on the island, but not in his connection with our Losties.
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LikeYeah, the gray hairs are the clue to Richard. I was just putting it out there. Whatever his fate, it was not ever part of the main group.
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LikeYeah, I thought that once the island was "shut off" he started to age. Jacob's death alone wasn't enough to do it. Remember, Jacob was not God. He was only able to do the things he did (protect the candidates with a simple touch, make Richard immortal) because of his relationship with the island. I thought the reason they had Miles point out the grey hair was to hint that Richard was finally aging.
I'm also happy that Sawyer got to leave the island in Nina's World of Lost, he and Kate made a life together. I really didn't want his story to end on the island. I'm kind of sad that Juliet's did. She really wanted to get home to her sister and that baby.
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LikeI just started bawling all over again so I have to come back.
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LikeI loved everything about the finale, and I got all the answers I needed.
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LikeAnd I suppose I can even give Kate props for finally ceasing to be completely useless.
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LikeAlso, Nina, we only thought that "Sideways World" was actually a sideways, alternate reality because Juliet ALSO said "It worked." right before she died, did she not? We thought that meant the BOMB worked. That's probably what the producers intended for us to think. Did you notice when she pulled the candy bar out of the machine she said, "it worked." So, you can add that to the "coffee" remark. All of it was from the awakening.
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LikeYes! Exactly! Which is just really smart writing, in my opinion.
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LikeThe "it worked" line TOTALLY. BLEW. MY. MIND.
Because it made me realise something that was totally there in the text of these last few episodes, but hadn't really occurred to me properly - when we heard Juliet say "it worked", she wasn't talking about the bomb... in some way she was already dead, and experiencing the scene that we saw in the LAX reality, where the exchange was happening.
Like, when you dream, and it feels like it lasts for hours or days, but it's really only a very short time before you wake, so you get bleed-through?
(It's possible you've already covered this in this insane comment thread, but it really made me feel awe when the penny dropped on this one.)
It should have been obvious from Jack's recurring neck-bleed. When it happened in the first episode of the last season, I assumed what we were seeing was supposed to be happening at equivalent time to the very first episode - only with the plane landing instead of crashing - and thought it must be bleed-through from a wound he sustained in the other timeline. But of course, we were supposed to think that.
(For my money, that's why we saw the island under the water - this purgatory's version of the island is cut off from a way forward - symbolically or otherwise, that ties in with what Michael said about spirits trapped there.)
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