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		<title>By: xencat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 03:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so they taught the villagers to put condoms on sticks as a means of birth control, not realizing that the ability to communicate via metaphorical demonstration was not a particular strong point of theirs, to say the least.

Who really are the idiots here? The villagers for doing exactly as they were taught, or the humanitarian group who had the squeamish and condescending gall to demonstrate a simple concept in an incomprehensible manner.  I guess they were a &quot;little&quot; afraid to just whip it out and show them how you put one on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so they taught the villagers to put condoms on sticks as a means of birth control, not realizing that the ability to communicate via metaphorical demonstration was not a particular strong point of theirs, to say the least.</p>
<p>Who really are the idiots here? The villagers for doing exactly as they were taught, or the humanitarian group who had the squeamish and condescending gall to demonstrate a simple concept in an incomprehensible manner.  I guess they were a &#8220;little&#8221; afraid to just whip it out and show them how you put one on.</p>
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		<title>By: xencat</title>
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		<dc:creator>xencat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 03:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At one time Haiti was the richest colony in the world. The &quot;Jewel of the Caribbean&quot; as it was called.

   Historian A.Nli writes:

 &quot;Haiti was discovered by Columbus in 1492. After the Spanish killed off all the native Americans who lived in Haiti (by 1512) they imported African slaves to work in the plantation economy. In 1697, Spain ceded what is now Haiti to France: an area of 10 748 sq. miles. By the 1770s, Haiti had eclipsed other French colonies of the Caribbean in wealth. Sugar exports were greater than those of any other territory in the world: so great that Haiti supplied France with all its needs. This gave France a huge surplus, of which it sold two-thirds to half of Europe at an enormous profit. Haiti&#039;s soils were fertile, extensive and well-irrigated, its plantations well managed.

By 1789 Haiti was the glory of the French colonies, &quot;the jewel of the Caribbean, the single richest colony in the world,&quot; as Bernard Diederich wrote. The prosperity of the colony was such that dollar-wise its imports and exports exceeded those of the entire United States where, in the same year, 1789, George Washington was inaugurated for his first term as president. At its western extreme Cap Francois (now Cap Haitien), a city of 25 000 with fine public buildings and theatres of stone and brick, was properly known as &quot;The Paris of the Antilles.&quot;

By 1789, the colony had been under cultivation for 92 years. Seldon Rodman writes: &quot;The rich alluvial Plaine du Nord ... boasted a thousand plantation houses behind monumental pillared gateways. It sparkled at night with the gay illumination of elaborate balls, lighted carriages and the glaring ovens and stacks of boiling-houses refining sugar cane around the clock.&#039;&#039; Soon all that was to change.

In 1789, the French Revolution had overthrown the King and proclaimed the doctrine of &quot;Liberty, Equality and Fraternity.&quot; Inspired by the events in France, a slave revolt was imminent. On the eve of that rampage, there were some 40 000 Whites in Saint-Domingue, 30 000 free Blacks and mulattos, and almost 500 000 slaves. At the best of times, French military resources in the colony were inadequate. These were far from the best of times.

On May 15, 1791; France&#039;s National Revolutionary Assembly voted full equality with Whites to all male mulattos born of two free parents. Though this affected a mere 400 men, it was to inspire the first violent and fiery insurrection of Blacks. The word fury is not just figurative. A fire had been kindled among half a million Black slaves that would not be extinguished till the last of the colony&#039;s 40 000 Whites and the majority of free Blacks and mulattos had been killed or driven from the island.

In August, 1791, the lid blew off the colony. Rioting slaves became a great mob that ran amok, uprooting, torching and destroying. Before long Haiti was dominated by roving slave bands. Everywhere there was devastation. In Paris the Revolutionary Assembly had placed itself squarely on the side of the Blacks. It was hinted that the emancipation of the slaves was near at hand

The plantation owners, mulattoes and free blacks fully realised that they faced total extermination should the slaves take control. The colonists now talked of secession from France. All normal business in Haiti ceased. The people began arming themselves against the slave revolution they feared was about to engulf them. Orders came from Paris that the slaves should crush any outbreak of  resistance.

That was too much for most people, who gave up and left, often with nothing but the clothes they stood up in. They were the lucky ones. Soon great fires could be seen in the countryside. The revolting slaves were burning the canefields and slaughtering everyone, the whites, mulattoes and free blacks who were unable to flee in time.

Undermanned and under-equipped militia went into the interior on reconnaissance patrols. Few returned. The stories survivors brought back were chilling. The men were at once hacked to death, but the women were gang raped by their slaves before being tortured to death, along with their children. In some cases the women were thrown on top of the bodies of their husbands, fathers or brothers, then raped.

On February 3, 1794, the French revolutionary government officially abolished slavery and declared all the Negroes in Haiti as equal citizens of the state. By 1798 the revolution had succeeded both in establishing the freedom of the slaves and, decisively, in the development of modern Haiti, in destroying the country&#039;s profitable agricultural base. By the end of 1803, France&#039;s richest colony laid destitute, a smoking wasteland.

The effects of these historical events have lasted to this day. Haiti, for 195 years, has spawned nothing but horror, poverty, disease, sporadic massacres and brutal dictatorships. Haiti received its new name on January 1, 1804, on proclamation of the half-made ex-slave, Jean Jacques Dessalines. His first act after having crowned himself Emperor in imitation of Napoleon, was to seize the tricolour flag of France and tear out the white section.

No sooner was Dessalínes firmly established on his imperial throne than the order went forth for the total massacre of the White population. On April 25, 1805, he published the proclamation that officially established Haiti as a Black state and banned Whites for ever from its shores. By 1806 the entire White population had been butchered and the bloodstained island returned to the jungle.

Under President Jean-Pierre Boyer (1820/43) Haiti irrevocably became the land of largely illiterate, Black, Creole-speaking smallholders. From 1843 to1915 there were 22 presidents. Technically - and this too should be of some importance to South Africans - Haiti has been ruled: but never governed.

Today, under all-Black rule, there are no successful commercial farms left. Haiti is a puny nation, wretchedly poor. The forests have been denuded and none replaced. Indeed, only 2% of the land is still forested. The impoverished millions scratch a subsistence from the low-yield soils of the denuded valleys, growing sorghum, rice, yams and pulses. The wealthier nurture a few pigs on tiny holdings. At the peak of its glory, Haiti carried 250 000 cattle and vast numbers of pigs.

Its cities are dilapidated and dirty slums. Though nominally Catholic, the barbaric rites of voodoo worship, a survival of the population&#039;s African heritage, still flourishes. Haiti has an extremely high birthrate: a recent poll established that 100% of the Haitian people want to migrate to the US. Tourism to the island is today greatly inhibited by Haiti&#039;s reputation as a prime source of AIDS.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At one time Haiti was the richest colony in the world. The &#8220;Jewel of the Caribbean&#8221; as it was called.</p>
<p>   Historian A.Nli writes:</p>
<p> &#8220;Haiti was discovered by Columbus in 1492. After the Spanish killed off all the native Americans who lived in Haiti (by 1512) they imported African slaves to work in the plantation economy. In 1697, Spain ceded what is now Haiti to France: an area of 10 748 sq. miles. By the 1770s, Haiti had eclipsed other French colonies of the Caribbean in wealth. Sugar exports were greater than those of any other territory in the world: so great that Haiti supplied France with all its needs. This gave France a huge surplus, of which it sold two-thirds to half of Europe at an enormous profit. Haiti&#8217;s soils were fertile, extensive and well-irrigated, its plantations well managed.</p>
<p>By 1789 Haiti was the glory of the French colonies, &#8220;the jewel of the Caribbean, the single richest colony in the world,&#8221; as Bernard Diederich wrote. The prosperity of the colony was such that dollar-wise its imports and exports exceeded those of the entire United States where, in the same year, 1789, George Washington was inaugurated for his first term as president. At its western extreme Cap Francois (now Cap Haitien), a city of 25 000 with fine public buildings and theatres of stone and brick, was properly known as &#8220;The Paris of the Antilles.&#8221;</p>
<p>By 1789, the colony had been under cultivation for 92 years. Seldon Rodman writes: &#8220;The rich alluvial Plaine du Nord &#8230; boasted a thousand plantation houses behind monumental pillared gateways. It sparkled at night with the gay illumination of elaborate balls, lighted carriages and the glaring ovens and stacks of boiling-houses refining sugar cane around the clock.&#8221; Soon all that was to change.</p>
<p>In 1789, the French Revolution had overthrown the King and proclaimed the doctrine of &#8220;Liberty, Equality and Fraternity.&#8221; Inspired by the events in France, a slave revolt was imminent. On the eve of that rampage, there were some 40 000 Whites in Saint-Domingue, 30 000 free Blacks and mulattos, and almost 500 000 slaves. At the best of times, French military resources in the colony were inadequate. These were far from the best of times.</p>
<p>On May 15, 1791; France&#8217;s National Revolutionary Assembly voted full equality with Whites to all male mulattos born of two free parents. Though this affected a mere 400 men, it was to inspire the first violent and fiery insurrection of Blacks. The word fury is not just figurative. A fire had been kindled among half a million Black slaves that would not be extinguished till the last of the colony&#8217;s 40 000 Whites and the majority of free Blacks and mulattos had been killed or driven from the island.</p>
<p>In August, 1791, the lid blew off the colony. Rioting slaves became a great mob that ran amok, uprooting, torching and destroying. Before long Haiti was dominated by roving slave bands. Everywhere there was devastation. In Paris the Revolutionary Assembly had placed itself squarely on the side of the Blacks. It was hinted that the emancipation of the slaves was near at hand</p>
<p>The plantation owners, mulattoes and free blacks fully realised that they faced total extermination should the slaves take control. The colonists now talked of secession from France. All normal business in Haiti ceased. The people began arming themselves against the slave revolution they feared was about to engulf them. Orders came from Paris that the slaves should crush any outbreak of  resistance.</p>
<p>That was too much for most people, who gave up and left, often with nothing but the clothes they stood up in. They were the lucky ones. Soon great fires could be seen in the countryside. The revolting slaves were burning the canefields and slaughtering everyone, the whites, mulattoes and free blacks who were unable to flee in time.</p>
<p>Undermanned and under-equipped militia went into the interior on reconnaissance patrols. Few returned. The stories survivors brought back were chilling. The men were at once hacked to death, but the women were gang raped by their slaves before being tortured to death, along with their children. In some cases the women were thrown on top of the bodies of their husbands, fathers or brothers, then raped.</p>
<p>On February 3, 1794, the French revolutionary government officially abolished slavery and declared all the Negroes in Haiti as equal citizens of the state. By 1798 the revolution had succeeded both in establishing the freedom of the slaves and, decisively, in the development of modern Haiti, in destroying the country&#8217;s profitable agricultural base. By the end of 1803, France&#8217;s richest colony laid destitute, a smoking wasteland.</p>
<p>The effects of these historical events have lasted to this day. Haiti, for 195 years, has spawned nothing but horror, poverty, disease, sporadic massacres and brutal dictatorships. Haiti received its new name on January 1, 1804, on proclamation of the half-made ex-slave, Jean Jacques Dessalines. His first act after having crowned himself Emperor in imitation of Napoleon, was to seize the tricolour flag of France and tear out the white section.</p>
<p>No sooner was Dessalínes firmly established on his imperial throne than the order went forth for the total massacre of the White population. On April 25, 1805, he published the proclamation that officially established Haiti as a Black state and banned Whites for ever from its shores. By 1806 the entire White population had been butchered and the bloodstained island returned to the jungle.</p>
<p>Under President Jean-Pierre Boyer (1820/43) Haiti irrevocably became the land of largely illiterate, Black, Creole-speaking smallholders. From 1843 to1915 there were 22 presidents. Technically &#8211; and this too should be of some importance to South Africans &#8211; Haiti has been ruled: but never governed.</p>
<p>Today, under all-Black rule, there are no successful commercial farms left. Haiti is a puny nation, wretchedly poor. The forests have been denuded and none replaced. Indeed, only 2% of the land is still forested. The impoverished millions scratch a subsistence from the low-yield soils of the denuded valleys, growing sorghum, rice, yams and pulses. The wealthier nurture a few pigs on tiny holdings. At the peak of its glory, Haiti carried 250 000 cattle and vast numbers of pigs.</p>
<p>Its cities are dilapidated and dirty slums. Though nominally Catholic, the barbaric rites of voodoo worship, a survival of the population&#8217;s African heritage, still flourishes. Haiti has an extremely high birthrate: a recent poll established that 100% of the Haitian people want to migrate to the US. Tourism to the island is today greatly inhibited by Haiti&#8217;s reputation as a prime source of AIDS.<br />
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all of this! And have nothing else to add. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all of this! And have nothing else to add. <img src='http://blogitoutb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Essence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Essence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because a woman could sleep with a hundred guys and still only have one child (except in cases of multiple births), but a man can sleep with a hundred women and have a hundred babies. It&#039;s not really equivalent, but just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because a woman could sleep with a hundred guys and still only have one child (except in cases of multiple births), but a man can sleep with a hundred women and have a hundred babies. It&#8217;s not really equivalent, but just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Essence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Essence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A guy in my dorm said the same thing, and it made me so mad. America is not the only country with orphans, homeless, and mentally ill. And as bad as these problems are in America, those groups of people can still get water. If America just sat back and let the Haitians die from starvation and dehydration, we couldn&#039;t call ourselves humans. Just be kind to your fellow man regardless of where he&#039;s from!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A guy in my dorm said the same thing, and it made me so mad. America is not the only country with orphans, homeless, and mentally ill. And as bad as these problems are in America, those groups of people can still get water. If America just sat back and let the Haitians die from starvation and dehydration, we couldn&#8217;t call ourselves humans. Just be kind to your fellow man regardless of where he&#8217;s from!</p>
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		<title>By: onedeepblue</title>
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		<dc:creator>onedeepblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 05:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eh usually the people I see that comment from are ones I know rarely get off their butt to help anyone. You are really worried about the poor in this country then do something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh usually the people I see that comment from are ones I know rarely get off their butt to help anyone. You are really worried about the poor in this country then do something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Maven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. We&#039;re talking about hundreds of thousands of lives either lost or gravely affected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. We&#8217;re talking about hundreds of thousands of lives either lost or gravely affected.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think that says it all.</description>
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		<title>By: Margery Bloom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margery Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I wonder is just how much the people reposting that are actually DOING here at home to help.  I listened to an interview with a single parent making 35k a year who makes 50 lunches a weekend to bring to the streets.  Not only is she spending cash she can ill afford, but her TIME on a weekend, to search out people who are hungry.  I&#039;m betting that she was also one of the first to donate to Haiti. 

The reality is that we don&#039;t give nearly enough in this country privately because we expect our government to deal with the issues.  We assume that because we pay taxes, we are taking care of the social ills here.  There is no such assumption when it comes to other countries.  So we dig deep and give.  

As I noted on the last debate about whether or not posting your bra color was causing awareness about breast cancer, it matters not who we support as long as the support goes beyond a fucking status update on Facebook.  I&#039;m just saying. Maybe if we all donated the equivalent of our internet access cost each month to a food bank, a woman&#039;s shelter, etc? 

And by the way...the single BEST thing an American can give in this country is the gift of time to a child.  Please mentor.  Coming directly from the trenches, I can tell you that some kid somewhere near you REALLY, REALLY needs you.

Thank you for the use of your soapbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I wonder is just how much the people reposting that are actually DOING here at home to help.  I listened to an interview with a single parent making 35k a year who makes 50 lunches a weekend to bring to the streets.  Not only is she spending cash she can ill afford, but her TIME on a weekend, to search out people who are hungry.  I&#8217;m betting that she was also one of the first to donate to Haiti. </p>
<p>The reality is that we don&#8217;t give nearly enough in this country privately because we expect our government to deal with the issues.  We assume that because we pay taxes, we are taking care of the social ills here.  There is no such assumption when it comes to other countries.  So we dig deep and give.  </p>
<p>As I noted on the last debate about whether or not posting your bra color was causing awareness about breast cancer, it matters not who we support as long as the support goes beyond a fucking status update on Facebook.  I&#8217;m just saying. Maybe if we all donated the equivalent of our internet access cost each month to a food bank, a woman&#8217;s shelter, etc? </p>
<p>And by the way&#8230;the single BEST thing an American can give in this country is the gift of time to a child.  Please mentor.  Coming directly from the trenches, I can tell you that some kid somewhere near you REALLY, REALLY needs you.</p>
<p>Thank you for the use of your soapbox.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Also, women are more likely to use birth control when they have access to education, food, and work.&quot; 

No doubt but to spur that change on and make it feasible don&#039;t you need to shock the system? Building schools, creating some level of educated class, etc... That could take multiple generations. Over that same period of time you aren&#039;t curbing growth and getting to that educated class becomes harder and harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also, women are more likely to use birth control when they have access to education, food, and work.&#8221; </p>
<p>No doubt but to spur that change on and make it feasible don&#8217;t you need to shock the system? Building schools, creating some level of educated class, etc&#8230; That could take multiple generations. Over that same period of time you aren&#8217;t curbing growth and getting to that educated class becomes harder and harder.</p>
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