Lost – Season 5 Epi. 16: “The Incident”

May 14, 2009 by  
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Previously on Lost: Faraday convinces Jack that they need to destroy the pocket of energy that causes the hatch in order to make it so that their plane never crashed. He’s going to use the hydrogen bomb to do so.

And now…

A man is using a loom and making a tapestry. Then then he goes fishing at the beach. He sits and eats his fish while watching a ship at sea. Another man joins him and they discuss the ship. The second man says that the first man brought the ship there trying to prove him wrong. He says the same thing always happens; the people come there and fight, destroy and corrupt. He says he wants to kill the first man and he will once he finds a loophole. The first man says, he’ll be right there when he does. The second man leaves and we see they were sitting under the giant statue. The first guy is Jacob.

I knew one of them was Jacob the moment they started talking. I also called it that they were near that statue which seems to look like… Anubis? I need you mythology geeks to help me out here.

From their convo I’m getting a whole “God and Satan” vibe going. Jacob called the other guy, “my friend.” Where are they and what are these rules that seem to be in place that the other would need a “loophole” to kill Jacob?

Donny thinks the ship at sea is The Black Rock. Is this how Richard came to be on the island? Wasn’t the Black Rock back in the 1800′s?

As a little girl Kate tries to steal a New Kids on the Block lunchbox from a store. A man offers to pay for it to keep her from getting in trouble. The man is Jacob.

On the submarine, Kate tells Sawyer and Juliet that Jack is going to blow up the island. Sawyer is all, “Good for him,” and refuses to help Kate stop Jack.

Sayid has read Daniel’s journal and knows how to remove the core of the bomb so that they can take it to The Swan. They have two hours. Richard isn’t pleased.

Miles’ Dad stops the drilling at The Swan, but Radzinsky’s raggedy ass resumes it. He ignores Chang’s warnings that bad shit is about to happen ’cause he’s a douchebag.

Thirty Years Later:

Richard is still young and sexy.

Still young and STILL sexy.

Still young and STILL sexy.

Ok, I’ve been away a few weeks, but remember a few epis ago when Faraday pulled the gun on Richard and Richard was like, “You don’t want to do this?” Well, am I the only one that kinda expected Richard to go full-on demon and like eat Faraday or something? No? Just me? Ok then.

On their way to Jacob, Locke and co. take a break. Ben admits to Sun that he’s never met Jacob, who is in charge of the island. Richard is amazed that Locke is alive after Ben strangled him. Locke says he’s amazed that Richard doesn’t age.

Also, Richard seems to only have that one nice shirt. BUT when Ben first met him he looked like a bush-man.

They both agree that they are the way they are because of Jacob. Locke says he wants to go to Jacob to thank him. He also says that eventually they’ll have to deal with the other plane passengers and when Richard asks what Locke means, he says, “You know what I mean.” That means death!

Meanwhile, the other plane passengers are rowing ashore with Lapidus knocked out. Jimmy Kimmel wants to know why they’re keeping him around and Elana says he may be useful. J.K. is annoyed that Lapidus didn’t know the answer to the question. Lapidus is awake and has been listening. He wants to know what’s in the cargo box they’re carrying. They show him. He’s not pleased.

As a little boy, Sawyer attends his parents’ funeral. He’s writing the letter to the man that caused their deaths when Jacob shows up and offers him a pen. A man shows up after Jacob leaves and reads the letter. He makes Sawyer promise to leave well enough alone and not finish the letter. We all know how that ends.

When the Dharma guy with the sedatives arrive, Juliet knocks him out. She tells Sawyer they can’t let the people on the island die. They hold the captain at gunpoint and they make him resurface the sub so they can get off. Then they direct him to leave as planned after disabling the radio.

Sayid removes the core from the hydrogen bomb. Richard still isn’t please, but he’s till young and sexy so I’m okay with that. Oh, he doesn’t think it’s a good idea that Eloise is involved because she’s pregnant. Richard tells Jack that years ago Locke came to him and told him that he’d be their leader. Well, Richard has left the island three times to visit Locke, but he hasn’t been impressed. Jack tells him not to give up on Locke.

Thirty Years Later:

Locke wonders why Ben didn’t tell Richard that he plans on killing Jacob. Ben admits that his dead daughter threatened to destroy him if he didn’t do whatever Locke says. This makes Locke happy because he realizes he won’t have to convince Ben to kill Jacob.

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?!

Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?!

Sayid and Nadia are about to cross the street when Jacob stops Sayid and asks him for directions. Nadia is hit by a car and dies.

That was six shades of fucked up.

Sayid, Jack, Richard, and Eloise prepare to leave with the bomb. Richard knocks out Eloise and pulls a gun on Jack and Sayid. He says they can go do what they need to, but he’s not gonna let Eloise go. He refers to Eloise as their leader.

Jack and Sayid leave the underground tunnels and enter a Dharma house. They decide to wear Dharma jumpsuits and make their escape in plain sight. Ben’s father spots them and shoots Sayid. Jack goes all Jack Bauer shooting people in return. Miles, Jin, and Hurley arrive in a van and rescues them.

The sub leaves as Kate, Sawyer and Juliet paddle to shore. Juliet stares at it longingly. They come ashore and find Rose and Bernard. Bernard looks a hot ass mess. They’ve been living in the jungle for three years with Vincent. Sawyer wants to know why they didn’t speak up and Rose is like, “We were happy without all you crazy white folk.” They don’t care if Jack blows up the island, they just want to be together. Juliet looks at Sawyer and he looks at Kate.

Yum!

Yum!

Poor Juliet.

They head for the Dharma barracks.

I’m not happy with this tie-up (if that’s what it is) of Rose and Bernard. Not even a little bit.

Elana, Lapidus, Jimmy Kimmel and crew arrive at Jacob’s cabin. A ring of ash around the cabin has been disturbed. Elana goes inside.

The ash around the cabin reminds me of Supernatural episodes where they use salt to bind demons. Was that ash there to keep Jacob in? Out? Protect him? Or to hold someone else?

Flashback to Elana in a hospital. Her face is heavily bandaged. Jacob comes to see her. He apologizes for not coming sooner. She’s happy to see him. He says he needs her help and she agrees.

Elana didn’t seem surprised at all to see Jacob. She seemed to know who he was too. Also, notice how he touches everyone. Definitely getting a “God” vibe.

At Jacob’s cabin, Elana tells the others that Jacob isn’t there and hasn’t been for a long time. Someone else has been using it. She orders them to burn it.

Jacob is sitting on a bench outside a building when Locke comes flying out of it. Man, it sure looks like Jacob brought Locke back to life. He tells him he’s sorry this has happened to him.

From the moment they showed Jacob sitting there, I knew Locke was gonna come flying out the window. Did it look like his touch brought Locke back to life or was that just coincidence that he opened his eyes at that exact moment?

On the island, Ben admits to Locke that he was talking to an empty chair that time they went to see Jacob. Ben wants to know why he would kill Jacob. Locke tellsĀ  him that despite his island loyalty, Ben got cancer, saw his daughter murdered, and was banished. Why wouldn’t he want to kill Jacob?

Well, when you put it like that.

Sun finds Charlie’s Drive Shaft ring in Aaron’s old crib. She flashes back to her wedding day. Jacob offers his congratulations to her and Jin in flawless Korean.

Hurley is driving his ass off towards The Swan. Sayid is bleeding out. They stop when they see Sawyer, Kate and Juliet standing in the middle of the road. Sawyer wants five minutes to talk to Jack and Jack agrees.

"Um, do I look like I got five minutes? Bleeding here!"

"Um, do I look like I got five minutes? Bleeding here!"

Flashback to Jack when he cuts that girl’s spinal thingie and his Daddy is there and makes him count to five before he tries to stitch her up. Um, that’s not the version he told Kate in the very first episode. After the surgery, Jack’s candy bar gets stuck in the vending machine (a Dharma candy bar at that!) Jack is annoyed with his father for putting him in a time-out during his surgery. Jacob comes along and gets two candy bars out of the machine and offers one to Jack.

In the woods, Sawyer tells Jack that it was a year ago that his father killed his mother and then himself. He didn’t get on the sub and stop it from happening. What’s done is done. So, he wants to know what Jack screwed up so badly that he has to set off a nuke to make it right. Jack talks about destiny and Sawyer doesn’t believe in destiny. Jack says that he had Kate and lost her. Sawyer is like, “She’s right over there. Go tell her!” Jack is done. He’s going to set off the bomb.

All I know is that Kate must have some good ish to have these fools jumping through hoops and setting off nukes.

Sawyer starts to kick his ass. Jack kicks his ass back. Jack won’t stop. Juliet shows up and tells Sawyer to stop. She agrees with Jack. They have to set off the bomb. Juliet has changed her mind.

As a kid, Juliet learns her parents are getting a divorce. Her mom tells her that sometimes people who love each other aren’t meant to be together. Back on the island, she tells Sawyer that she changed her mind when she saw him look at Kate. She says that maybe they weren’t meant to be together. If they never come to the island, she nevers meets him, and then she doesn’t have to lose him.

At The Swan, Radzinsky takes a call from Phil and learns that Jack and the others have a bomb and may be headed there. He orders Phil to come there with some men and guns so they’ll be ready.

Jack is already there watching from a distance. Kate wants to know what happened to his face. Sawyer happened. Jack wants to know why she made him promise never to ask about Aaron. She said she was angry at him for making her come back. She said she came back to make it right so that Aaron can be with his mother. Jack says that nothing in his life has ever felt as right as what they’re about to do. The guys at The Swan hit something with their drill and Jack realizes that it’s about to happen. Kate, finally, has his back.

Hurley gets out of jail and shares a cab with Jacob. He’s sitting in the back of the cab with a guitar case. When Hurley assumes that Jacob is dead, Jacob tells him he isn’t. He wants to know why Hurley won’t go back to the island. Hurley says he’s cursed cause he sees dead people. Jacob tells him that seeing the people he loves might mean that he’s blessed. He tells Hurley about the flight that will lead him back to the island.

Did Hurley just offer God a Fruit Roll-up?

Back on the island, in the 70′s, Sayid ain’t looking so good. Hurley tells him that he’ll be okay once Jack changes the past/future. Sayid doesn’t think he’s gonna make and Miles agrees. Jack says he’s gonna take the bomb down to the site. Sayid has rigged the bomb to explode on impact. Jack takes off and runs into Sawyer and Juliet. He tells Sawyer, “See you in Los Angeles.”

Locke and crew have arrived at the foot of the statue and he stares at it. Richard tells Locke that if he had waited, Jacob would have come to him. Locke is tired of waiting. Locke is a bit of a douchebag. Sun asks Ben what happened to the statue and Ben says it was like that when he got there. Sun isn’t so sure. Locke takes Ben inside the tomb against Richard’s wishes. Locke wants to know if Ben is up to killing Jacob and tells him things will change once Jacob is gone. He promises. And then he hands Ben a knife.

At the van, Miles asks everyone if it hadn’t occured to any of them that Jack’s explosion might actually be the event that starts everything.

DUH!

They see Phil and his men on their way to The Swan. They realize Jack will need help. Phil’s nosy ass spots Jack and starts shooting. He shoots back. Juliet, Sawyer, Miles, and Kate arrive in the van. They start lighting shit up. Sawyer knocks out Radzinsky and takes Phil hostage. Phil makes everyone drop their guns and Jack prepares to drop the bomb. Chang tries to turn off the drill, but it won’t shut off because they’ve already hit the pocket.

Jack, Kate, Juliet, and Sawyer all share tearful looks and Jack drops the bomb. Well, he drops the hydrogen bomb in the hole… he doesn’t fart. They brace themselves and wait for the explosion. And wait. And wait. And wait. Nothing happens.

Then the electro-magnetic stuff starts happening and everything metal starts flyin down the hole. Miles’ father is injured, but Miles helps him and tells him to get far away. Radzinksy and crew try to leave, but can’t cause their damn jeep almost gets sucked down. Phil is about to shoot Sawyer, but takes a metal pipe through the chest instead. Juliet is dragged to the hole with chains. Kate stops her from going down, but can’t save her alone. Sawyer grabs Juliet’s hand, but he can’t pull her up because of the chains. Kate tries to free Juliet from the chains. Juliet realizes that they’ll probably die too if they continue to try and save her. She tells Sawyer she loves him and then lets go.

Awwww.

On the beach, thirty years later, Richard sits with Sun. Elana and crew show up asking for Ricardos. She asks Richard what lies in the shadow of the statue. He answers in latin. She shows him what’s in the cargo container. It’s Locke!

And I have goosebumps!!!

Inside the tomb, Ben admires the tapestry we saw Jacob making all those years ago. Jacob addresses Locke and says that he finally found his loophole.

Locke is the second man! Or the second man is Locke! Or posing as Locke.

Fake-Locke tells Ben to do what he told him to do. Jacob tells Ben he has a choice and he can leave them to their business. Ben wants to know why Locke. Why after 35 years and doing all that Jacob asked, why wasn’t he good enough to get an audience with Jacob? What about me?

“What about you?,” Jacob responds.

DAY-UM.

Ben stabs Jacob twice in the chest. As he spits out blood he tells Fake-Locke, “They’re coming.” Fake-Locke kicks Jacob into the fire.

Juliet wakes up at the bottom of the hole. She’s badly hurt. She takes a rock and bashes at the bomb next to her. It explodes.

And that’s it till 2010!

Ok, so my thoughts are…

1. Bad man in black has been the one in the cabin and directing Locke and the others when he appeared as Christian, Eko’s brother, Locke and Alex.

2. Are they Gods?

3. Bad man in black accussed Jacob of bringing the people on the ship to the island. Did he also bring flight 315 and Desmond and everyone else that ended up there?

4. Are the smoke monster and the bad man in black connected? I think so.

5. Why would the original, indigenous, Others become Dharma to begin with? And again, who has been funding them once Ben killed all the original DI people? Well, all except Ethan.

6. How does this explosion change what we already know? What has it erased? Has it negated what just happened in the tomb under the statue?

7. What the hell did Richard say in Latin?

8. Will we ever see Rose and Bernard again? Or Claire?

I think we’re about to enter in to some good vs. evil/Gods-type storylines. And I love it!

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So I don't know if anyone else got this vibe or not, but I think the one of the reasons Juliet wanted Jack to detonate the bomb is because she was preggers with Sawyers baby. She kept grabbing her stomach and it had been mentioned throughout the season about when they were going to have one, and I think she didnt want to lose Sawyer because of Kate. I totally hate Kate, btw. Little Homewrecker. There's a lot of questions to be answered since this next one is the last season. I cant wait!

time travel gives me a headache
that is all

Another thing about Rose and Bernard. Sawyer, Kate and Juliet found them in 1977. The two skeletons that were found in the cave in season 1 or maybe 2 which would have been 04-05 What if they were Rose and Bernard?

How is that gross?! It is possible.

The idea of finding your own remains is just gross. Or living on the same island as your future remains. *shudder*

IF that ship is the Black Rock it would be around 1845ish. Do you remember Alpert making a ship in the bottle from a previous episode?

Nameless guy could he possibly live in the temple where ole' smokey resides too? Could he be smokey?

The statue is not Annubis. Sobek Here is an excerpt from website I found on Sobek. Fits perfectly.

"Sobek's ambiguous nature lead some to say he was a repairer of evil that had been done, rather than a force for good in itself, for example, going to Duat to restore damage done to the dead as a result of their form of death. He was also said to call on suitable gods and goddesses required for protecting people in situation, effectively having a more distant role, nudging things along, rather than taking an active part."

"In art, Sobek was depicted as an ordinary crocodile, or as a man with the head of a crocodile. When considered a patron of the pharaoh's army, he was shown with the symbol of royal authority - the uraeus. He was also shown with an ankh, representing his ability to undo evil and so cure ills."

Alpert looks Egyptian to me. Always has. With that dark complexion and the black eyeliner. That can't just be his eyelashes could it?

I thought Alpert only left the island twice to see Locke. When was that third time?

The whole show has been about good vs evil. The first of it we saw was against Sawyer and Jack. Then it went from there with the "Others" vs the survivors.

I cried like a little bitch when Juliet went down that hole. I could have handled Sayid, Jack or even Kate!

Wasn't that the Second time that Nadia had been killed. Wasn't she shot by Widmore's people first?

What's the deal with the guitar?!

Richard has eyeliner in every show I've ever seen him in. I think that's just the way his lashes make his eyes look.

I want to know how and why Eloise, Widmore, and Ben fit into all of this. Why would Jacob need a leader to begin with? Why not just have Richard be the leader?

That is a good question. Why isn't Richard the leader. Maybe it is b/c he is the voice of Jacob?

i believe the third time he left the island was to recruit Juliet

1) Correction: At the beginning of the show, the guy on the loom is the bad guy not Jacob. He is on the loom in the temple while Jacob is fishing.

2) I am so happy we have the answer to the riddle.

oops. I accidentally hit submit.

I am so happy we have the answer to the riddle. Q: What lies in the shadow of the statue? A: He who protects us all. Jacob lies in the shadow of the statue!! He is the protector.

3) In all the flashbacks Jacob touched someone or gave them something. Juliet had a flashback, but Jacobnever appeared in her flashback, so maybe that means she was not meant to be there and that is why she dies (we think)

which leads me to my next point

4) You ASSUMED that juliet made the bomb explode, but we didn't see an explosion... we saw the screen go white, a la the Sopranos fading to black at the end of their finale. For all we know, it doesnt detonate.

5) It was so sad watching Sawyer try to save Juliet, but Sun's reaction when Jin "died" in the explosion on the freighter is still much more heartwrenching.

Honey, that was Jacob on the loom. They showed him. Also, at the end he says to Not-Locke and Ben that he made the finished product and that it takes a really long time when you have to make the thread.

did you notice that MIB-Locke cut off a piece of this hand-made rug after cleaning his knife in Season 6 premiere? Wonder what that's all about.

Did anyone feel the same thing that we have seen the man in black clothes with Jacob sometime somewhere in the show? or it is just me watching so many shows and remember him from other shows ? :(
he absolutely looks familiar to me :(
I would agree that the current John is the Smoke monster and the Smoke monster is the guy in black, everthing makes sense, he wanna kill Jacob and John and the Smoke never appear at the same time (after John got back)

and i personally dont like the way they seperate Sawyer and Juliet
Juliet is my favorite female character :(

He's just been in a lot of stuff and always playing a bad guy.

Remember when Ben called the smoke monster and it didn't come? Non-Locke was nowhere to be found. He told Sun he had something to do. That would also make sense because when Ben finally did see the smoke monster and his daughter appeared, how convenient that her only instruction is to do whatever Locke says.

He who will protect us all.
That is the latin that Richard spoke.

Something interesting::: On another board someone called "the guy in black" Esau. So i looked it up and found:

Jacob and Esau were the sons of Isaac and Rebekah and the first twins mentioned in the Bible. Even before they were born, they were struggling together in the womb of their mother. Their prenatal striving foreshadowed later conflict (Genesis 25:21-26).

The twins grew up very different. Jacob was “a quiet man, staying among the tents” and his mother’s favorite. Esau was “a skillful hunter, a man of the open country” and his father’s favorite. One day, Esau returned from hunting and desired some of the lentil stew that Jacob was cooking. Jacob offered to give his brother some stew in exchange for his birthright—the special honor that Esau possessed as the older son, which gave him the right to a double portion of his father’s inheritance. Esau put his temporary, physical needs over his God-given blessing and sold his birthright to Jacob (Genesis 25:27-34).

When the time came for Isaac to bestow his blessing on his sons, Jacob and his mother contrived to deceive Isaac into blessing Jacob in Esau’s place. When Esau found that his blessing had been given to Jacob, he threatened to kill his brother, and Jacob fled (Genesis 27:1 - 28:7). Years later, Jacob and Esau met and were reconciled (Genesis 33).

Both Jacob and Esau were fathers of nations. God changed Jacob’s name to Israel (Genesis 32:28), and he became the father of the 12 tribes of Israel. Esau’s descendants were the Edomites (Genesis 36). Edom was a nation that plagued Israel in later years and was finally judged by God (Obadiah 1:1-21).

I wonder if that would make Isaac and Rebekah the bones found in the cave in season 1 (or was it season 2?) I think they had rocks near their bodies?

Also I think Juliet knew Rose and Bernard were living where they were. She is the one who brought them the Dharma food and spent time with them which is why Bernard asked if she wanted a cup of tea probably something they did when she visited.

Aaaand the book Jacob was reading Everything That Rises Must Converge by Flannery O'Connor is about race relations (Dharma and the others) and hostilities at the start of desegregation (the merging of the two 'tribes') in the early 60's South.

Good call/observation with Juliet and Rose/Bernard. I agree. There was something off about his offer of tea and your explanation works. It feels right. I did wonder where the hell they got the food. You need a helluva lot of food for three years. More than you would "find" scavenging.

I saw a lot of themes in the color shirts they were wearing like in the first scene with Jacob wearing a white shirt (supposedly good) and the other dude (he was in Deadwood) wearing a black shirt (supposedly not so good). The Dharma people wearing grey.

I knew Juliet was going to die because of the red shirt she was wearing especially since JJ Abrams did the Star Trek movie.

The first thing I noticed about that opening scene was the white/black clothes and I knew one was Jacob. I just didn't know which would be Jacob because I wasn't sure if Jacob was supposed to be good or bad. Also, I thought their clothes looked... biblical.

That conversation about proving Man 2 wrong and what people will do really made me think of two Gods arguing and kinda watching a real life Sims game and making predictions... occasionally tugging some strings to influence events.

Oh, and I really wanted Jacob to tell Ben what he wanted to hear because I didn't want Ben to kill him. But Jacob went out like a P.I.M.P "what about you, motherfucker?!"

Jacob was/is played by the guy who played Rita's abusive ex-husband on Dexter whom Dexter ultimately carved into pieces in season two I believe.

Yes! That's where I've seen him before! Thanks!

I think we will see Claire again because of so much Aaron talk. She was gonna give him up, he deserves to be with his family, bla bla bla, and last I checked Claire ain't workin.

I only caught the second half of the show and knew blondey touch and grab had to be Jacob.

Ben seems pretty damn smart, cunning etc... don't you think that he would have followed Richard to see Jacob at some point.

-Sun asked Ben if the statue looked like that when he got there and he was like I don't know and she said I don't believe you.
You think it has been destroyed in the past 30 years to try to get at Jacob, I think so.

Did they cc when Richard spoke in latin?

Both people that play rose and bernard are still alive so if jj likes his fans at all rose and bernard will make a return. Especially with the healing properties of the island etc...I just can't accept them not wrapping up rose and bernard in the final season.

Sometimes Juliet annoys me but I was damn broken up at the end: Just because you love someone doesn't mean you are meant to be together. (corny yes but damn)

Did you notice Penny in the preview for that kinda spooky new show?

My co-worker was not a fan of the season finale.

lle qui nos omnes servabit - “He who will protect us all.”

This translation feeds into the whole God vs. Satan concept. Dan and I have been going with that from the beginning - the idea of the island as a sort of 'purgatory' where people come to work things out but when they got into all of the time travel it began to water this down a bit.

I've also read translations of "He who will save (perserve) us.-AudreaSA

I am glad you brought up the hotness of Richard, I wondered if I was the only one. Everyone goes on and on about Sawyer (and it's not hard to see why) but you know what? I got upset when Sayid was shot. Man is he hot too!

Anyway, the whole juliet going down the hole and all that gripped me.

They're all hot including Jack.

Yeah, the scene with Juliet was rough.

I'm not feeling the idea that Locke has been dead this whole season. BUT knowing what we know now I went back and looked at certain scenes from past epis (yeah, I still have the whole season on one of my TiVos. Don't judge me) and it makes sense. It never made sense that Locke would want to kill Jacob. Never.

"All I know is that Kate must have some good ish to have these fools jumping through hoops and setting off nukes. "

LMAO! I didn't look at it that way. Kate's a heart breaker in the worst way.

Also, that scene with Rose and Bernard got me choked up.

And I was wondering about Claire, too. I have to believe we'll see her again, I thought she'd have shown up yesterday.

I refuse to believe the bomb negated everything. I think the bomb WAS the incident, and probably why the statue is now only a foot.

I agree. I can't believe that they'll go back to them getting on the plane w/o the crash next season. There would be no way to bring it all home (and you know they have to) with the limited amount of time left. I like the idea of it being the incident.
I wonder what Jacob meant by... he said something like, "So, it ends again and anything that happens before that is progress."

"It only ends once, everything that happend before was just progress"... I think we are headed for the ending...

Richard is sexy. I'll post my real comment momentarily

I know. I'd want to stay on the island and be his never-aging concubine.

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