Lost Season 5 – Because You Left/The Lie Epis. 1&2
January 22, 2009 by nina
Filed under Lost Season 5
An alarm goes off at 8:15am. A woman tells a man it’s his turn to get a crying baby. He tends to the baby and leaves for work… and he’s on the island… which I totally knew. It’s a man in some nut-hugging tight pants. It’s the doctor from all of the orientation films by The Dharma Initiative. He’s in the middle of making a film when he’s told there’s a problem at The Orchid.
He heads down to where the big wheel that moves the island is. Construction crews have been through two drills trying to get to it. The doctor informs the crew to stop. They run the risk of releasing limitless energy that can be used to time travel. The construction chief is all, “Chyeah right.” And the scientist is all, “Yuh huh.” As the scientist leaves, he bumps into the OTHER scientist. You know, the one that came to the island on the freighter and was Desmond’s constant when he was all time-travelly, Daniel… the physicist.

Physicist time traveling Daniel
Three years after the island moved, Jack and Ben talk about going back to the island with all of the Oceanic 6, and smelly, dead, Locke. Jack says that Locke told him all kinds of bad shit went down when they left and that if they didn’t go back, Sawyer, Juliet, and everyone on the island and boat would die.
Flash back three years to when the island moved and those on the island are all, “WTF?!” No one knows what the bright light and loud sound were all about. Where’s the freighter? No one knows. Also, no one knows where the hell the camp is ’cause that’s gone too. Daniel, who was on the raft when the island disappeared and within the radius, says that the camp isn’t gone. It just hasn’t been built yet. And I’m all, “Yeah, that’s nice. I’m just happy Rose and Bernard are still alive.”

Yum!
Back to three years later, Kate is served with papers declaring she needs to give up a blood sample to prove she’s Aaron’s mommy. She’s all, “Um, no.” The lawyers won’t say who their client is and Kate demands they come back with the sheriff. While they’re gone, she packs up her and Aaron’s stuff and they bounce.
Flash back three years, and Daniel won’t explain to Sawyer and Juliet what’s going on. He says it would just be too complicated for their simple little brains. For this, Sawyer bitch slaps him and Daniel sings like a canary physicist.
Locke is making his way around the island when a plane comes dangerously close to crashing on his ass. It crashes in the distance, and in the process drops one of the Virgin Mary heroin statues. Locke makes his way to the wreckage, and not learning a lesson from what happened to Boone’s ass, he tries to climb up to it. Someone starts shooting at him and he falls. It’s Ethan!
Ok, so obviously the island went back in time. But why is Ethan alive? Is it ’cause his dead body was on the island? Is that why the drug plane re-crashed?
Anyway, Ethan is about to pop a cap in John’s ass when it suddenly gets all bright again and next thing you know, it’s nighttime. Daniel tells Sawyer and crew they are either in the past or the future. Well, no duh.
Three years ahead, Sun is travelling to Los Angeles when her passport causes her to be locked in a room. Charles Widmore arrives. He’s all, “Don’t be running up on me when I’m with my boys like that.” And she’s all, “My bad.” He wants to know what their common interest is. “To kill Benjamin Linus.” Well, no shit.
Ben and Jack see a news report about Hurley escaping from the mental hospital. This changes their plans.
Sayid and Hurley get some fast food and head for Sayid’s apartment. Hurley says he needs a cool coat. I don’t know about that… but he damn sure don’t need that fast food he’s eating. Sayid tells Hurley he was working for Ben for the past two years and Hurley wonders if this means Ben’s on their side now. Sayid tells Hurley to always do the exact opposite of whatever Ben says.
Sayid realizes his safe house ain’t so safe. He kills two intruders, but not before one shoots him with a tranquilizer. He instructs Hurley to get him to the car. “I’m too old for this shit,” Hurley grumbles as he carries Sayid off. Well, what he actually says is, “We never should have left that island.” Same diff. Moral of this scene? Always put your knives in the dishwasher pointy side down.
Three years ago, Sawyer and crew find the blown up hatch. This means they’re forward in time, back to after the Oceanic people crashed there. Sawyer wants to head back and see if the camp is still there and possibly warn the people on the copter not to go. Daniel explains that they can’t change the past or future, they must not interfere… leave the stream be. And I have a headache. Sawyer wants to know who can stop the island from time jumping… cut to…
Locke hobbles to the drug plane and finds it as it was when they first found it; crashed with the heroin and skeletons. He fashions a tourniquet for his injured leg. Richard shows up to remove the bullet from his leg that Locke never told him was there… Richard says, “You did tell me… or you will.” He explains that Locke will be moving on soon and that the next time they meet, Richard won’t know who he is. Then he gives Locke a compass. He tells Locke he has to get his friends to come back in order to save the island. Locke wants to know how he’s supposed to do that… “You’ll have to die, John.”

"Um, what's plan B?"
Bright light and Locke is back in the daytime… back in the past.
Three years in the past, Sawyer and crew realize that they are back in the past, and the hatch is back. Sawyer wants to go into the hatch to get the supplies. Daniel warns him he can’t change the past. Sawyer says that everyone he cares about just blew up on Daniel’s freighter; he knows what he can’t change.
The foreign redhead chick has a nosebleed which causes Daniel to consult his notebook on the sly. When alone, he bangs on the hatch’s backdoor until Desmond answers. He quickly tells Desmond that if he made it off the island in the helicopter, Desmond needs to go to Oxford University in order to save those left behind. He tells him to find his mother… and the bright light flashes again. Desmond, of course, didn’t know what the hell he was talking about or who he was.
Three years in the future, Desmond awakes on a boat with Penny and realizes he just had a memory. He starts to un-anchor the boat, informing Penny they’re going to Oxford.
Three years ago… the Oceanic Six are discussing whether or not they’re going to lie once rescued. Everyone agrees to, but not Hurley. Jack tells him that they need to protect those they left behind from Charles Widmore. Hurley is outnumbered and pretty much bullied into lying. Hurley warns, “Ima ‘member this.”
Three years in the future… Hurley and Sayid are on the road. Hurley drives and tries to get Sayid to wake up. He’s out for the count. Because Hurley is a fool and driving like one, they get pulled over. The cop is Ana Lucia! She scolds Hurley for being a dumbass, tells him to get off the streets, and that Libby says hi. Freaky!

Three years in the past… the people left on the island try to figure out what their next step should be. Daniel want to try and figure out where they are in time.
Three years in the future… Hurley buys clothes and narrowly averts being recognized. Kate gets a call from a friend and rushes to meet him/her. Ben tells Jack to go home and pack anything that means anything to him because once they leave he’s never going home again. He says he’ll meet him in six hours. When Jack asks whether or not Locke is dead, Ben doesn’t respond. He just says, “I’ll see you in six hours, Jack.” Hurley shows up at his Dad’s house. (His Dad was totally watching, “Expose,” the show that starred Nicky from the island.)
Hurley’s Dad covers for him with the cops. Kate meets Sun at a hotel, and Ben shows up at a butcher shop where the lady behind the counter agrees to hold on to Locke so I guess he won’t be so stinky and maggoty after all.
Three years in the past, on the island, Asian psychic dude returns from the jungle with a dead boar. He said he found it dead. I’m guessing he used his special connection with the dead ability to find it.

"I'll give you these peanuts if you can tell me my name."
The foreign redhead admits to Daniel that she can’t seem to shake a headache, and earlier couldn’t remember her mother’s maiden name. One of the survivors starts to over-freak out about the group not being able to start a fire when suddenly he has a fiery arrow in his chest. The survivors flee an onslaught of fiery arrows! WTF?!
In the future, Hurley’s father leaves with Sayid hidden in his car. Sun tells Kate that she must do whatever it takes to protect Aaron. Sun remembers that Kate told her to get Aaron on the helicopter and that she, Kate, would go get Jin. We all know how that turned out. Sun assures Kate she doesn’t blame her. Hurley’s father takes Sayid to Jack and warns him to leave Hurley alone. Jack calls Ben and tells him he has Sayid Ben’s eyes go wide… er… wider than usual. Hurley tells his mother the truth about what happened on the island. She says she doesn’t understand, but she believes his crazy ass.
Three years ago, on the island, Sawyer and Juliet encounter some men with guns who threaten to cut off Juliet’s hand if they don’t explain what they’re doing there. Guess they have knives too.
In the future, Jack takes Sayid to a hospital and gets him to wake up. Sayid is concerned that Hurley is now vulnerable. Ben shows up at Hurley’s house and tries to convince him he’s working with Jack and Sayid. Remembering what Sayid said about trusting Ben, Hurley runs out to turn himself in to the cops watching his house instead. Ben looks on like, “Dumbass.”
Locke comes out of the shadows all Jungle Badass and saves Sawyer and Juliet’s asses… and her hand.
Meanwhile, in the future, a cloaked woman is working on formulas on a blackboard, and typing into a computer. A weird pendulum swings leaving markings on the floor. She makes her way up to a church where Ben is waiting. He explains he’s having difficulty gathering everyone, but she warns he only has 70 hours. She’s the woman from the jewelry store! Ben asks what would happen if he can’t get them to return to the island.
“Then God help us all.”
So, what did you guys think? Predictions? Questions? More importantly, when do we get to see the smoke monster again?!
Me thinks that woman at the end may be Daniel’s mother.


Nina is a 34-year-old mother, wife and writer who spends her days blogging, studying, changing diapers and watching ridiculous amounts of TV. She currently resides in Atlanta, Georgia, with her husband, two children and three TiVos.




I have the WORST headache...time travel always does that to me...I am totally f'd up over Heroes and now this...
I need Jin and Anabesi ( Echo, but he was on Oz first ) to come back to add some color back to the show...if you look at the first couple seasons it was a diverse cast but they killed off everyone..
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LikeYou were all funny in this blog.
"His Dad was totally watching, “Expose,” the show that starred Nicky from the island."
His dad totally had the munchies too!
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LikeForeign redhead chick = Charlotte =)
And... OMG WTF!? Those 3 hours went by WAYYYY to fast!
I think Ben is behind the blood test because he told Jack he'd handle Kate, and everybody and they Mama knows Kate runs at the drop of a hat.
What upset me and made me wanna slap the fat off Hurley was.. didn't Ana Lucia just get done telling him not to get arrested?! Then he see's Ben, freaks out and stupidly turns himself in. Argh!!! Nooo Hurley!!!!!
*Spider Venom*
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LikeGood theory with Ben and the blood test.
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LikeGreat review, if for no other reason than your ability to recall everything that happened in the episode! :)
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LikeI type as I watch, baby. Type as I watch.
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LikeFirst...SQUEEEEE Lost is back and I loved the first two episodes. I think Ms Hawking was in Season Three also?
Do you think Sun was lying and she really is pissed at Kate too for Jin getting killed? It sure seemed like it to me. I am going to have to do a re-watch later. I think in my giddiness, I missed somethings.
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LikeOh, Nina...I feel so complete now that Lost is back!!
So, the redheaded foreign chick (I love how you call her that, b/c I can never remember her damn name!) - I think she either needs to find a constant, or has somehow lost her constant. Is Mrs. Hawking/Faraday's maybe mommy her constant? Or is Faraday trying to get his mom to be her constant? Or maybe his mom just knows shit and can help.
Also, about Faraday as a Dharma guy: I believe he went back in time in order to try to figure out how to stop the time shift spinning thingy from happening. He seemed to have hidden his face from Dr. Candle as they passed each other, but allowed the construction guy to see him. Could this be because Dr. Candle knows Daniel and knows he shouldn't be there? I don't think Daniel was EVER really a part of DI, but that knowing what he knows now or will know soon, he decides to find his way back in time to when that shit was being built. Or maybe all the Left Behinds time traveled together back to the days of DI building their shit because of the time skipping crap that I barely understand but somehow do. Either way, Daniel finds his opportunity to become enmeshed in the operations of DI, which is when he makes his extensive notes in his notebook that he keeps referring to...Am I making sense?
So, I also think Mrs. Hawking could be Daniel Faraday's mother, and that Miles could be Dr. Candle's kid. Which leaves us with foreign redheaded chick who we've been led to believe has actually been born on the island...where does she fit into all of this? Doesn't Mrs. Hawking have an accent? Is it the same as foreign redheaded chick's accent? I'm way overthinking and I love it! Obviously, these 3 have SOMETHING to do with this whole story.
Oh, and my favorite line from the night:
Hurley's Mom: Why is there a dead Pakistani on my couch?
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LikeNo, I didn't mean that Daniel was DI. The guy behind the video camera looked like a younger eye patch dude, but eye patch dude can't be DI because all the DI people died when Ben turned on them.
You crack me up, "maybe she just knows shit and can help." LOL
And I loved how Hurley's Mom just called him a Pakistani.
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LikeOne more thing and I might be done for the day...maybe.
What if Claire isn't talking about Aaron? When she tells Kate, "You can't bring him back?" What if it is Locke that they can't bring back?
Is it next Wednesday yet?
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LikeVery interesting theory!!! Leading us to believe it's Aaron could be a red herring. What if she meant Ben, and not Locke? I certainly don't think Ben is doing all of this helping of the O6 out of the goodness of his heart or because he has the best interests of the Island at heart! I think he has some serious Ben-like ulterior motives...so what if that warning was not to bring BEN back to the island with them? I mean, if Locke was destined to become the new leader, chosen by Jacob, then Ben would be doing something sinister in trying to get back to the island when he was supposed to never go back after turning the donkey-wheel and all...
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LikeAsian psychic dude's name is Miles (I think) and I agree that he's the baby we see at the beginning.
I also agree the woman at the end is Daniel's mom, but I could not place which previous episode she was in. Thank God for your blog!
I was able to follow most of what was happening, and I get Daniel's (and his mom's) point about how what's supposed to happen will happen no matter what you do... but one thing that confuses me is that Ethan must have gone back to the Others and told them how he shot some dude named Locke who said he was supposed to be their leader. Don't the Others say something along the lines of, "We've been waiting a long time for you" when he finally meets them? And Ben is all threatened by Locke because he knows he's destined to "replace" him...
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LikeOh, and one other thing they've not gone back to... remember in an earlier episode, they flash back to Hurley in the mental institution the first time and Libby is there? Was that just one of those coincidental things like Sawyer meeting Christian, or is it more meaningful than that?
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LikeRight now, I'm inclined to think that's one of those coinky dinks. Remember she lost her husband? She might have been there after some kind of breakdown over that. Just like Kate had a run-in iwth Sawyer's baby mama before she got on Flight 815. Speaking of which, you know that Sawyer whispered to her to look in on his daughter before he jumped right, and that was the favor she ran for him when Jack got so pissed. I can't wait to see their faces when they meet each other again. (Kate and baby mama)
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LikeNina, do we know that that is what Sawyer whispered to Kate for fact and I just forget finding it out? Or is it a theory of yours? If it's a theory, it's a great one!
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LikeIt's a theory. Earlier last season when Kate was being all secretive about where she was going, I knew it was about Sawyer. I figured he would want her to look in on his daughter, Clementine. So, in the finale, I was waiting for the moment when he would ask because we knew of the people on that helicopter, he was the only one not a part of the six.
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LikeYes, that would explain The Others already having this awe-like regard for Locke. Good call.
Also, remember when we first met Daniel's Mom, she told Desmond that even if he had warned the guy that was meant to die, he would have died another way? Just like when he kept saving Charlie. He was meant to die some way.
I think Desmond was able to communicate with Daniel because they are each other's constant. Also, he wasn't trying to change the past or the future, but rather create a future. One in which Desmond saves their asses. LOL
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LikeAll of this time skipping stuff is, I think, definitely how The Others have to come to know of Locke and revere him as their future leader. Remember way back when, I'm terrible at differentiating episodes and seasons, but remember when Alpert went to young John Locke and gave him 3 objects to choose from and asked which of these things do you think belongs to you? Young John chose the knife I think, and Alpert got all pissy and said Locke wasn't who he thought he was or some shit and left. One of those objects was the COMPASS that Alpert gave to John when fixing his bullet wound and said, "I won't remember you next time we meet. Give this to me and I'll know you." Or something to that effect anyway...my thoughts are that now that that happened (Alpert giving Locke the compass) will Young John pick the compass instead of the knife?
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LikeOooh good call. I forgot about the compass.
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LikeAnother observation/question...
We know now that Locke found out in almost immediately that he needs to get the ppl back that left in order to save the island and stop all the horrible things that happened after they left, but he didn't get off the island for three years and contact everyone? What the hell happened in those three years w/ Locke?
I love this line...
Locke: It was Ethan who shot me.
Richard: Well, what goes around comes around.
Remember that Charlie shot and killed Ethan. LOL!
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LikeThe only thing I can think just from seeing two hours of it, that we (I mean they) are dealing with time travel. If they are bouncing back and forth so much just in the first season who knows how much time actually lapses on the island verses in the real world. We will find out.
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LikeDid you catch how they had been on the island 108 days before they left for the freighter? 108 days, 108 minutes....
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LikeMy friend Jen said this morning, "Five minutes in and we got a 'What the fuck?' moment." Whenever time travel gets thrown into a story, it gets confusing. Nina is checking right now, but my problem was that in Lost's version of time-travel, at least from what Faraday said last night, if something DIDN'T happen in the past, it CAN'T happen now. In other words, it's not that you "Shouldn't" change the past, which is the usual approach, but that you can't. That's why when Sawyer was pounding on the door, Faraday was like, "he ain't gonna open it. It didn't happen in the past, so it's not going to happen now." But Faraday WAS able to because he wasn't THERE in the past, so it was a new element. At least that's my understanding. The only problem with that is that when we met Desmond, I seem to remember him saying he hadn't seen another person in years and years.
I DID love the part where Hurley was explaining everything to his mom, and he said, "And you had to push the button every 108 minutes or... um, yeah, I never did really get that part."
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LikeOK, I just noticed something else as I'm watching it again... in the beginning when the Doc is making the video. He refers to the person assigned to Station 2 (The Owl? The Arrow?) and says that given their expertise, it's no surprise that the station's purpose is to develop defensive strategies and gather intelligence on the island's hostile, indigenous... and then he's cut off.
We know that the island's indigenous people are Richard and his folk - the people Ben teamed up with to kill the original D.I. people. Have we seen this station? Who is this person with their "expertise?"
Also, the guy filming (we only see half his face behind the camera) looks like a younger version of the eye patch guy.
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LikeI think it is the Arrow. That would make sense, since it is the defensive station. I do not think we have seen this station.
The eye-patch guy possibly being behind the camera should be spot on. He was in the communications station when he was found.
Sorry about the double posts earlier. My internets decided to give me attitude.
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LikeThe only flaw with that being eye patch guy is that it would mean he was original Dharma, and we know Ben wiped all of those people out when he joined up with Richard and his gang.
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LikeI LOVED all of it. My only complaint? Not enough Sawyer. I could look at that piece of man candy all day.
My favorite line was when Hurley said to Sayid: "You know, maybe if you ate more comfort food you wouldn't have to go around shooting people."
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LikeHahaha! That was classic. I want to see more Locke, smoke monster, Jacob, DI flashbacks, and Jacob!
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LikeMy only big stupid question is If Locke is Dead in a Casket in LA, then how is he also on the Island? The hubs says it's because of the whole jumping through time thing, and some science shit I didn't understand..LOL
I'm dying to see what happens with Hurley since he's been arrested now. I hate that I had the privilege of watching all 4 of the first seasons all in marathons, and now I have to wait a week between episodes for this one...*sigh*
The hubs actually suggested that we NOT watch season 5 and wait for it to come out on DVD. I looked at him like he had bumped his head. How could we NOT watch it?? That's just crazy!!
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LikeYeah, that's crazy talk! The most I would suggest is letting two or three episodes back up... but even that's a tinge insane.
As for Locke.. what you see back in "the real world" is happening now. It is three years after the helicopter left and the island moved. What you're seeing on the island is three years ago and what happened IMMEDIATELY after the island moved. That's how Locke is in two places at once.
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LikeDuh!! Now I really feel dumb...I remember now seeing. Today and 3 years ago flashing on the screen too.. I was just so intensely paying attention to what was happening it wasn't registering. Thanks for explaining it!
Yeah I think I'll "suffer" through watching it once a week. Don't think I could miss an episode, cause then I couldn't read your awesome writeups!!
Did you watch the one hour recap before the new season premiered? My SIL was here and had never watched LOST and she saw it with us and now she's hooked too!!
And to think I used to roll my eyes at people that lost their shit over LOST, and now I'm one of them!! LOL!
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LikeMr Asian Physic Pants...good call on him being the baby in the first scene.
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LikeIt just struck me as odd that the redhead seems to have come childhood connection to the island, and then when Faraday told Desmond to find his mother...
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Like"Hurley says he needs a cool coat." I thought he said he needed a cool code name....
The lady at the Jewerly store? I knew I had seen her somewhere before but I still can't place it. I also think she is Faraday's mother.
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LikeAh, maybe I heard "cool coat" 'cause I wanted him to stop walking around in those crazy person clothes.
Remember when Desmond went back in time and he was gonna propose to Penny? The first time he didn't buy the ring, and then he decided to and she was like, "Um, no. If you don't do exactly as you did before, you'll screw everything up?" I think that's the same lady Ben was speaking with at the end.
Also, did anyone notice the numbers throughout the show? I noticed the gas prices when Sun called Kate were variations of the numbers, and the number Ben pulled at the butcher shop was as well.
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LikeOk. I am really going to try and find that part on Youtube.
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LikeI THINK it's "The Constant" from last season if that helps your search.
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LikeYou are too good Nina! It is her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YidqILgeyYo
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Likehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YidqILgeyYo
Found it.
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Like*bows*
Thank you. Thank you.
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LikeI DVR'd it because Milo wouldn't go to bed and we were too tired to try to watch it. I read your review so that when we do watch it I'll be all like, "I know why this is happening and stuff." And my husband will be all like, "Wow, how do you know all of that?"
Hopefully Milo will get over his little cold - without giving it to us - so we can watch it soon.
Great review. I love the way you wrote it - great style.
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LikeYou can also be like, "I bet this happens next..." and really blow his mind.
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LikeZactly...
We're finally going to watch it tonight!
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LikeI can't read this because, as usual, I've never seen this show. Damn, I say that a lot, huh?
But I bet you wrote an awesome review.
One day I'm going to watch all these damn shows and come back here and be commenting like a mad woman on all your old blogs and I'm going to expect you to reply to me too!
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LikeThe amount of good TV you're not watching is staggering.
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LikeSays the woman who has never seen Airport 75, 77 or 79!
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LikeI just thought of something... you know how the foreign redhead hinted that she might have been born on the island and that's why she wasn't getting on the freighter? And now Daniel is instructing Desmond to contact his mother... who MAY be the lady we saw at the episode's end...
What if the Asian psychic was the baby at the start of the epi?
Oh, and last season, Daniel's notebook seemed to be all of his notes on time travel. Last night he got very specific in saying that the notebook was filled with data on the Dharma Initiative and years worth of research on them.
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LikeOooh, that's a good one!
So far my predictions have been pretty dumb, including, "Hey, do you think that if they bring Locke back to the island and he comes back to life he'll have to run around in that tuxedo they buried him in?"
Lost is great.
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LikeI'm pretty sure Locke isn't dead/dead.
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