Battlestar Galactica: Season 4.5 – Epi. 11: Sometimes A Great Notion
January 17, 2009 by nina
Filed under Battlestar Galactica -Season 4
Before we jump into the final season’s premiere, let’s do a review. Here are the top ten things you need to know about Battlestar Galactica:
1. The fate of the human race is in jeopardy – In the pilot episode, the 12 colonies of humanity were wiped out by the Cylons. Cylons were robots designed by the humans for military defense, but evolved (now look human) and revolted. They killed billions of people in an attack on the 12 colonies of Kobol including Caprica.
Centurion Cylons
2. Admiral Adama leads the colonists in a search for Earth – Battlestar Galactica, commanded by Admiral Adama (Edward James Olmos), is the only battlestar to survive the attack and leads the surviving fleet (about 50,000 ppl) in search of the mythical planet Earth. Legend goes that the 13th colonists fled many years ago and settled on Earth. They hope that there will be life there. The Cylons are hot on their asses.
Admiral Adama (l) and his son, Lee Adama
3. The Galactica crew is a family – Adama and President Laura Roslin (Mary McDonald) are like the mother/father figures of the surviving fleet. Roslin was the Secretary of Education when the attack happened, and the 43 people in line ahead of her to be President all died in the attack. She more than rises to the occasion. Laura and Adama have grown close.
Colonel Saul Tigh is Adama’s best friend and the executive officer of Galactica.
Lee Adama is Admiral Adama’s son and a fighter pilot aboard Galactica. They had an uneasy relationship. Kara Thrace a.k.a Starbuck is the best pilot in the fleet. She dated Adama’s dead son, Zach, who died in combat. Lee Adama and Starbuck had affairs while being married to other people. Lee to Dualla (Galactica officer) and Starbuck to Anders, a surviver from Caprica.
Dr. Gaius Baltar was duped into letting the Cylons into the nation’s defense system which helped the Cylons launch their attack.
President Laura Roslin
Kara Thrace a.k.a. Starbuck
Dr. Gaius Baltar
Lt. Anastasia Dualla (married to Lee Adama)
4. Cylons look like us now - There are 12 models of human-looking Cylons. And there are thousands of each model that are copies. If you kill one, the body dies but its consciousness is instantly downloaded into a new body (identical to the one that died) aboard one of their resurrection ships. Caprica 6 (the sixth model) is the one that seduced Baltar into getting into the defense system.
Number Six a.k.a Caprica Six
Number One a.ka. Brother Cavil
Number Two a.ka. Leoben
Number Four a.k.a Simon a.k.a The Black One
Number Five a.k.a Doral
5. The President is dying – President Laura Roslin is dying of cancer. There is a Pithean prophecy that the new leader will be dying and will lead humanity to their new home. The relationship between Adama and Roslin has deepened over time. She has told Adama, finally, that she loves him.
6. There are Cylons within the Galactica crew - There were sleeper Cylons within the fleet that didn’t know they were Cylons. Sharon (call sign Boomer), a Galactica pilot, started to become unglued and realized she was a Cylon.
On Cylon-occupied Caprica, a Sharon Cylon was tasked to seduce Helo (another Galactica pilot who landed on Cylon-occupied Caprica to rescue survivors, but stayed behind) and hopefully mate with him and see if Cylons could get pregnant by humans. Helo, at the time, didn’t know the woman he thought was Sharon was actually a Cylon, and that the Sharon he knew was aboard Galactica losing her marbles. When the crew of Galactica finds out that Sharon is a Cylon, someone shoots her. She dies but is resurrected on a Cylon resurrection ship. The Cylon Sharon on Caprica becomes pregnant by Helo, decides she can’t kill him, and joins him aboard Galactica. Essentially, they switched places and lives. Hera, a Cylon-Human child, is born to Helo and the new Sharon, later dubbed the call sign “Athena.”
Number 8 - Sharon a.k.a Boomer/Athena
Over the course of 3 seasons, 7 of the 12 models were revealed to us. At the end of season 3, four of the final five were revealed to be among the fleet. They did not know they were Cylons. They are Anders (Starbuck’s husband), Col. Saul Tigh, Chief Tyrol, and Tory (the President’s assistant.) Hearing a song in their heads led them to a room at the same time where they realize what they are. They decide to hide the fact that they are Cylons. Tory kills Tyrol’s wife when she finds out their secret. Tigh had killed his own wife once he found out that she was colluding with the Cylons so he feels extra dumb to find out he is one.
Final four Cylons: Chief Tyrol (l), Anders (top center), Col. Tigh (r), and Tory (bottom)
7. Starbuck has a destiny – “All of this has happened before, and will happen again.” In the third season, Starbuck’s ship exploded and she died. She returned in a new Viper (fighter plane) claiming to have been to Earth. She was gone months to the crew, but only hours to her. She passes the blood test devised by Baltar that proves she is human and not a Cylon, but no one has a plausible explanation for why she blew up and returned.
8. A civil war has split the Cylons - A division has formed between the Cylons in season 3. The rebel Cylons (the 8s, 6s, and 2s) want to find out who the final five are in the hopes of discovering their true destiny. D’Anna (model #3) has seen the final five Cylons, but her model was boxed. The rebel Cylons want to unbox her to find the final five. They want to join forces with the humans in order to do this. The humans are motivated to agree because the final five Cylons have been to Earth and can lead the way. The rebel Cylons are willing to help the humans destroy the resurrection hub, so no more downloading – dead is dead – and while the humans are doing that, they will slip and grab D’Anna, who has been in a kinda cold storage.
Number Three a.k.a D'Anna
9 – Enemies have become allies - The Cylon rebels are looking for meaning and are willing to be just like humans – mortal, to find it. There are members of the human fleet that think it’s a bad idea to trust the Cylons. Tigh confesses to his best friend, Adama, that he is a final five Cylon. Tyrol, Tigh, and Anders all begin hearing the same song again- the one that led them to learn they were Cylons – and this time it leads them to Starbuck’s Viper. They realize that the Viper holds the key to Earth’s location. The Viper’s radar has picked up a Colonial signal which is coming from Earth. The Cylons and humans decide to travel together to Earth by following the beacon.
10. They find Earth – When they arrive on Earth, they find it has been nuked. There is no life to be found. Devastated for thousands of years.
Who is the final Cylon? What happened to Earth? Where are the other Cylons and will they find them? You know they’re pissed off because their resurrection abilities have been destroyed. What happens to the fleet with their new Cylon alliance?
Season 4.5 Episode 11 – Sometimes a Great Notion
10pm – I’m so excited I can barely sit still. As is my habit, I want to celebrate good TV with a bad-for-me meal, but I’ve been dieting and I’m down five pounds. In fact, if I really wanted to celebrate I’d watch tonight’s premiere while on the elliptical, but it’s 1 hour and 4 minutes and that ain’t how I roll. Oooh, it’s on!
Previously on the awesomeness that is Battlestar Galactica: The Cylons have split; the Ones, Fours, and Fives are against the Sixes, Eights, and Twos. Well, Boomer (being a dirty little whore) is sleeping with one of the Ones (Brother Cavil) so she has sided with them. The 6s, 8s, and 2s have teamed up with the Colonial fleet to free Number 3, D’Anna, find the final five within the fleet, and find Earth. Dualla was Lee Adama’s rock even when he was fat and screwing Starbuck. The final four are revealed within the fleet and three of them help Starbuck figure out that her Viper can lead them to Earth. They arrive on Earth to find it decimated by a nuclear explosion. Dumb Earthlings.
Now…
Everyone’s kinda looking around at the nuked Earth like, “WTF?!” Col. Tigh looks out at the ocean with his one good eye. They’re all digging through the sands of the beach in disbelief. President Roslin finds a small plant. Helo reports there are no signs of life on radar… the Cylons concur. Starbuck and Leoben try to find the signal that led them there.
Why is no one concerned with radiation!? Stop touching stuff!
OK, Baltar confirms that the planet was nuked over 2,000 years ago and the radiation level is pretty low. Dualla finds a child’s set of jacks in the sand and loses her shit. It’s sad, but I still wish she would stop touching stuff. I truly believe Dualla is the final Cylon. Now, she’s on board a ship freaking out next to Helo. Poor Cylon Dualla.
10:05 – They have returned to Galactica to tell the rest of the fleet that Earth is to’ up from the flo’ up. President Roslin can’t bring herself to say the words. See, if that were Obama he’d have made an uplifting speech making them all forget that they’re pretty much fucked.
10:10 - Leoben (number 2) and Starbuck try to find the signal. They find a piece of colonial aircraft wreckage instead. Starbuck realizes it’s her ship that exploded when everyone thought she was dead. Oh snap! Dualla babysits Hera for Helo and Athena. Why? I don’t know.
The Cylons unearth the remains of a Centurion in the sand which suggests that they were there 2,000 years ago… but they’re not the same Centurion models that our Cylons are used to. They assume that the Centurions must have revolted against the 13th colony of humans that settled Earth, just as the Cylons did to the 12 colonies back on Kobol… but no! ALL the remains found are Cylon! There were no humans on Earth! The 13th colony was Cylons! Oh double snap!
President Roslin and Admiral Adama are all messed up. They don’t want to talk to anyone. She won’t talk to the Quarum (like our Congress) and Adama won’t talk to Col. Tigh. Who can blame them?
10:15pm – On the beach, Chief Tyrol has a flashback of being a skinjob Cylon on Earth. He was just walking down the street, minding his business, when the nuclear explosion occurred. There’s a scorch mark in his image on a wall. DAMN!
Lee Adama is all depressed thinking about all the pilots that died for the dream of a new beginning on Earth. Their sacrifice is meaningless he worries. Dualla tells him to man up and they make a date to have dinner that night.
10:20 – Starbuck and Leoben find her downed Viper. It’s blown to shit. Inside they find her dead body. WTF!!? She confesses that the Cylon hybrid told her she was the harbinger of death and would lead humanity to it’s end. Leoben runs off like a little bitch as Starbuck demands to know, “What am I!!?” You know shit is all kinds of wrong when you freak out a Cylon!
10:25- Anders finds a guitar neck in the sand and remembers playing the song that switched them on for a woman he loved. He tells Tyrol and Tory arrives to say she remembers Anders playing that song for all of them. They wonder how they could have died 2,000 years ago on Earth and end up as sleeper Cylons within the colonies.
President Roslin is burning the Pithean prophecies when Adama finds her aboard Galactica. She’s all down cause people trusted her and followed her to Earth for nothing. She has also stopped taking her cancer treatments. Adama tries to console her, but she ain’t having it.
10:30 – Starbuck burns her dead body on the beach. That’s not something you do everyday. Aboard Galactica, Lee and Dualla finish their date at the door to her quarters. They kiss. Ah, how nice. Wait till he finds out she’s the final Cylon.
Dualla’s all humming and happy as she puts her jewelry in her locker. Lt. Felix Gaeda tells her she’s all glowing. He leaves and she hums, hangs up her wedding ring and then shoots herself in the head. Let me say that one mo’ ‘gain.
Dualla shot herself in the frakkin’ head! What the frak!
Ok, my prediction now is that she’ll return later as the final Cylon. She must have had a memory of herself on Earth when she found the jacks… that’s why she freaked out. She knows killing herself means she resurrects. But no… the major resurrection hub was destroyed… but maybe final five don’t rez like the others. Oh, hell, I don’t know!
10:40 – Lee mourns over Dualla’s sheet-covered dead body. Adama finds him and they wonder what the hell Dualla was smoking. “I don’t frakkin know, ” says Adama. Alone with Dualla, Adama asks, “What did you do?” as he looks at her under the sheet.
Um, it’s pretty obvious what she did. She blew her pretty head off.
Adama storms through the halls of Galactica demanding a loaded sidearm from a nearby soldier. People are all fighting in the halls, garbage is strewn about, the words, “FRAK EARTH” are spray painted on the walls. I expect someone to start singing, “I’d move heaven and Earth to get outta Skid Roooow!”
Adama staggers into Tigh’s quarters drunk. “Sit down, Cylon!” They’re gonna have a heart-to-heart. Ohh, it’s on like Donkey Kong! Adama wonders if Tigh was programmed to be his friend. Adama starts shit-talking Tigh’s dead wife, Ellen. He says she was whore banging half the fleet cause she must have sensed that something was wrong with Tigh. Hmm, maybe. I just think she was that kinda whore. But, whatevs. Tigh threatens to shoot Adama in the head till he realizes that’s what Adama wants. He tells him to man up like Dualla, and do it himself. Atta Cylon!
10:52 – Lee changes the fleet count on the whiteboard to reflect Dualla’s death. Starbuck enters to tell him about the signal and finding her own dead body, but before she can, he tells her about Dualla. She figures finding out that one girl you used to screw is dead is enough for one night and keeps her news to herself.
Adama orders Gaeda to find the nearest star cluster. He’s blowing this dump called Earth. They call the Cylon base ship to see if their new allies want to ride shotgun. Adama gets on the horn and tells the fleet they’re leaving. He neglects to tell them that the 13th colony they idolized and followed to Earth were Cylons.
Back on Earth, Tigh tells everyone to get it together – they’re leaving in 15 minutes. D’Anna says she’s staying on Earth to die with her ancestors. It beats dying in the dark when Cavil (number 1) catches up with the traitorous Cylons. Tigh says he’s sticking with The Old Man (Adama) and he trusts him to find them a new home.
Tigh staggers out into the ocean … I guess to say goodbye? Who knows? Either way, he’s waist deep when he has a flashback to HIS time on Earth….
Chaos, people are screaming… someone is calling him, “Sol!” He finds his wife, Ellen, in some rubble. Nukes are going off in the distance.
“It’s okay,” she tells him, “It’s okay. Everything’s in place. We’ll be reborn. Again. Together.”
The nuke kills them.
It ends with Tigh in the water realizing that Ellen is the final Cylon!
Sonofabitch! I was wrong.
Ellen Tigh a.k.a The Final Cylon
So, what don’t we know?
Where are the rest of the Cylons and how long before they catch up with the fleet and the rebel Cylons? Where the hell is Ellen? Tigh killed her on New Caprica when he found she was boffin’ Brother Cavil (number one) and giving the Cylons info in exchange for his release from a Cylon prison. Where would she resurrect? Where did the final five resurrect when they died 2,000 years ago? Did they design the other seven models? What up with Starbuck?! Why couldn’t she die? For real, I mean. I hate her. More, more, more.
What did you think?
Greatest.show.ever.
Nina is a 34-year-old mother, wife and writer who spends her days blogging, studying, changing diapers and watching ridiculous amounts of TV. She currently resides in Atlanta, Georgia, with her husband, two children and three TiVos.
Never saw it, didn’t read it (though I’m sure your review was awesome). But wanted to show some love.
Plus, I think I might be able to say FIRST MOTHERBITCHES.
I’m telling you, Netflix this show. Now.
OMG- I actually watched this last night but I was on the computer trying to multitask and deal with a teenager and I completely missed so much. As I’m reading this I’m wondering if I even had the same show on! I’m going back to re-watch it again and pay attention this time. I’m still confushed about Dualla. WTF?
And I didnt see Ellen coming? I’m a little let down by that one.
Me too! I think it’s interesting in terms of it asking more questions than it answered, so you’re invested in sticking around for the final nine episodes, but I wanted it to be a major character.
What’s good is that it’s someone who’s been dead, so that begs the question, “Where the hell has she resurrected!?” And wait till she finds out he knocked up Number Six with the first full Cylon baby.
R.I.P. Dualla.
1. I just cant believe Dualla shot herself man, we watched it upstairs and the DVR downstairs recorded it but I just cant bring myself to watch it again right now. I think everyone is a Cylon at this point. Humans are a myth.
2. I really need someone to tell on Gaius. Does karma not exist in space?
3. I really need Chief Tyrol to figure out that Tory killed Callie. Ohhhh, Callie is the final cylon and she’s gonna jump out from behind something and be all, “Surprise bitches” then kick Tory’s ass.
4. I completely forgot about Tigh and the Six doing the nasty and that she got knocked up.
Tell on Gaius? What he do?
Yeah, Tory seems to have gotten away with it for now.
If they thought a human/Cylon baby was the shit (Callie and Tyrol’s baby, and Hera), wait till this first full-on Cylon baby is born.
uh…he gave the information that had humanity destroyed!
Yeah, but he didn’t do it willingly and he was already put on trial for that and his acts as President on New Caprica.
The trail was more for what went down on New Caprica. Knowing what he did and seeing people just fawn all over him with this blind devotion is so sick. Maybe he’ll cool it with the Jesus complex this season, Im not willing to put money on it.
Episode 11 a la Nina. loved it. I laughed out loud several times.
“Starbuck burns her dead body on the beach. That’s not something you do everyday.” LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
i think there’s still something we’re missing – something they’re not telling us. maybe ellen is the final of the 5. maybe not. d’anna DID say that there were only 4 of the final 5 in the fleet, so it couldn’t be dualla or starbuck. but, wtf is starbuck? gah! still, just because tigh says, “the final cylon”…does that mean it’s true?? i don’t know.
I have to disagree with your Obama prediction, though. His speech would have been something more along the lines of “What you need is MORE government. Just sit back and let us fix it all.”
oh, and maybe d’anna was wrong or lying, too. i mean, there’s no proof yet. i guess they were close enought to a resurrection ship when tigh killed ellen. i’m still not buying it. if she IS, she’s gotta be pissed off that saul killed her! or do they even resurrect?
I HATE NOT HAVING THE NEXT EPISODE HANDY!!!
I think it’s pretty much a done deal that Ellen is the final of the 12 models we know of from Kobol. It would seem that Earth was inhabited by all kinds of skinjobs (I gotta go back and watch the scene with Tyrol walking down the street, but I’m pretty sure there were other “humans” walking around that didn’t look anything like the other 11 we know) that got into a civil war w/ the centurions (just like on Kobal.) Somehow, The Five knew they’d be resurrected over and over again and so when the whole population was wiped out, they were. I think the obvious and big questions are:
Where did they resurrect?
Were the humans on Kobol in fact the ones that invented the Cylons that later turned on them starting the war?
During the 40 year truce those Cylons became those 7 models we first met. How? Did the Five do that? But how seeing as how Tigh was friends with Adama during that time and had no knowledge of who he was, it seems UNLIKELY.
When Tigh killed Ellen on New Caprica, where did she resurrect and did she resurrect with full knowledge of who/what she is? It’s possible when they resurrected after the nuclear blast, they knew who they were. Remember it’s been 2,000 years since that. They could have died and resurrected hundreds of times in that span, with only the most recent one being one where they were “sleeper” Cylons. If so, why?
Who is pulling the strings? The seven models were programmed to not even think of the final five, but by whom? The Five themselves? But that would suggest that they, at some point, had some awareness of who they were. We know now why that particular song triggered their awakening, Anders used to play it for them 2,000 years ago, but who turned the song on?! Again, is someone pulling the strings? Wherever Ellen was after she was killed by Tigh, was she triggered on at the same time or did she do the triggering?
Only nine episodes left to find out.
And what I meant about Obama was that, right or wrong, he would have at least said something. Had a plan. Not like Mr. Cat-Got-Her-Tongue Roslin or Do-We-Even-Still-Have-a-President Bush.
Oh, and I don’t think D’Anna ever said the final four are in the fleet. I’m pretty sure she always said the five. Remember, the Cylon Raider recognized Anders as a Cylon they’d never encountered and by sheer math, the Cylong deduced the Final Five were amongst the fleet. Unless told, I don’t see how D’Anna would know that Tigh killed Ellen. When she saw the faces of The Five and apologized, I’ve always believed she was talking to Tigh because of the five, he got the shittiest treatment from the Cylons. He lost an eye in their prison on New Caprica, for frak’s sake! What doesn’t make sense to me is why she hasn’t said yet, “Um, I don’t see the fifth amongst you.” Unless she’s holding it close to the vest in order to have something bargain with in case the humans want to double-cross them again. Although, that doesn’t explain why no one in the fleet has since asked, “Um, do you see the fifth hanging around?”
The only explanation for that might that 1. they are preoccupied with finally finding Earth and finding it nuked, then 2. Dualla kills herself, and 3. where the hell do we go? Also, they seem to have fully integrated the Cylons into their lives. Tigh is still the damn Ex. O!
Actually, D’anna specifically said there were only four in the fleet. It was the “Natalie” version of No.6 (the one who Athena killed after she found her with Hera on Galactica) who assumed there were five because she didn’t know their faces. It was the finaly episode of season 4.0, I think. It may have been the second-to-last episode. She corrected Roslin when Roslin said “final 5″. She said, “four. there are four in your fleet.”
I was thinking the same about Tigh when D’anna saw them in her vision and apologized. Even back when I saw that episode, I knew it must have been a high-ranking or highly regarded “human”. I think Ellen as the final cyclon is somewhat anti-climactic. She annoyed the crap outta me when she was alive, and she treated Molly Ringwald like shit in Pretty in Pink. I was kinda glad when she died – although under terrible circumstances and even though I felt a little sorry for her having to blow Cavil to help out her husband. (Cavil’s got EXTRA bad karma debt for making one of the final 5 prostitute herself in order to save another of the final 5….. hell, i don’t even know if any more Cavils exist.)
I keep wondering about the “one true god” – is that going to come up as the truth is revealed? Is the creator of all cylon life going to be revealed? Is there some twiat like the Cylons are the original inhabitants and the humand are the invaders? I need to knoooooooooooooow!!
That still doesn’t explain why no one in the fleet has at least asked her what the final Cylon looks like! Maybe that’s just bad writing. Because you knooooow someone would ask!
Yeah, emotionally I’m not happy with the Ellen reveal, but as a writing tool I see where it works on sooo many levels. And there’s tons of irony there with Tigh. Also, I think it being someone that’s “dead” opens up some cool questions.
I think it’s going to come out that Cylons were first. You’re right. I can’t believe we only have nine episodes to get our questions not only answered, but explored.
i think D’anna is holding the information because she doesn’t trust anyone. Maybe it’s her last grasp at power.
OMG she was the bitch from Pretty In Pink. I knew I knew here face from somewhere. She aged well. Molly Ringwald, not so much.
i recognized her the very first time i saw her! (i must still have pent-up anger toward “benny” because she reminded me of a rich, snobby twat from high school. haha!! i have issues)
i couldn’t believe she had aged so much, but then i looked it up and saw that she was 25 when she played a high school senior, so it makes sense.
bitch still looks better than i do.
I read an interesting idea on a bsg messageboard that made the whole starbuck thing make sense: ellen is a cylon, but a model six all grown up, and starbuck is the final. I thought that would explain a whole hell of a lot, given that the cylons seem to be attracted to each other, and because really, how the hell else do you explain starbuck’s return AND finding her body.
the only problem is…wouldnt tigh and adama have recognized the six as a younger ellen. regardless, I thought it was an interesting theory.
I also think bringing ellen back is great, I thought her character was interesting. I thought she was cylon from day one, so I didn’t feel led on when I found out it was (potentially) her. (although, tigh has been having all kinds of visions, so maybe not…) ugh.
Yeah, remember when she suddenly showed up everyone thought she was a Cylon then, but it was later discounted. My Mom is coming to live with us for awhile and she has never seen it. Richard is sending all the seasons and I think I may sit down and watch it with her from the beginning.
I dont think it was discounted. When Gaius gave her the test and told everyone she was not cylon, the six asked him if he was telling the truth and he said “I’ll never tell”. Plus that test was eventually proved to be bullocks I believe.
Yeah, I don’t think that was the only reason she was discounted as being a Cylon though. And it’s obvious that she passed because Gaius has been just as anxious to figure out the final five as everyone else. If he knew all along, that’s really bad writing as we’ve seen him try to find out for two seasons now. Now, that being said, the test was pretty much written off as unreliable.
I have had a hard time talking about the episode since it aired. Really was shocking. I wondered way back if Ellen was one, but then thought she wasn’t when she died. Though Felix and Dee crossed my mind a few times for various reasons.
I didn’t like the Dualla suicide, but the more I thought about it, the more it made sense. Someone had to do it. These people were living strictly for the hope that one day they’d find Earth and start over. To have that taken away would lead some to want to kill themselves. I just didn’t expect/want it to be Dualla. God, is it next Friday yet?!!?
I don’t watch this show, but my husband does…religiously…from the very beginning. He made sure I didn’t forget to DVR it for him. He’s all like, “Hey, Laww, it’s another season of FRACKIN’!” He knows how much that annoys me when they say that. LOL!
Tell your husband that I said, “He’s frakkin’ awesome!”
I just started watching Season 1 and it’s awesome. I frakkin’ want to watch it all the time. I’m on the fourth episode of season 1 and I was dying to read this blog but I controlled myself
BSG does frakkin rock, and I have to thank you for introducing it to me, through all your previous blogs mentioning it.
Yeah, Annie… you keep your eyes averted. You don’t want to ruin anything for yourself. I’m so jealous of those that get to watch it fresh and new and all in order.
Nice review! I’m thinking that Ellen and Saul Tigh were somehow instrumental in creating the Cylons that destroyed Earth, and so she somehow was able to “copy” their consciousness into new bodies. Doesn’t explain the rest of them, though. Who knows anymore!
Isn’t it fun and exhausting trying to figure it all out? I don’t know that nine episodes will be enough!
What if the Six is carrying the final cylon?
I don’t know about the “final” Cylon, but it does go to show that they no longer need the resurrection ships to ensure their “survival.” If they can reproduce they are now just like the humans, including mortal.
Okay, so the difference is that the final 5 CAN produce offspring. You remember that the other male Cylons (1, 2, 4, and 5) were unable to make it happen and that’s why the Sharon #8 on Caprica needed Helo to impregnate her. So I’m thinking that is one of the many differences between the final 5 and the others. ALTHOUGH, I believe “Final” is a misnomer. I think they’re the “original” 5. Just a guess.
So, that means Tigh, Tyrol, and Sam gotta lot of frakkin’ to do to carry on the species.
Yeah, that’s true. We’re used to calling them “final” because they were the final to be revealed. And they have to be the originals if they were alive on Earth 2,000 years ago. *sigh* I can’t wait till Friday night!!!
ok so I am of the camp that says everyone is a machine…just different models and versions. I think that the final/original 5 were actually the ones capable of ressurection and that they masked their memories in order to blend in with this last batch of non/resurrecting models aka “humans”
either that or they are delving into some crazy time/space continum like Heroes where things happen in different time planes and all that star cluster jumping has put them back at their own past/future….
i have a headache now!
So many questions. For example, the way I understood it, it sounded as if upon landing on earth and doing a little figuring, they’re now saying that the cylons on earth were the original colony, and the 12 colonies were sort of sprung out of them. Also, does this mean you, me and all us other earthlings are cylons? And if earth was populated entirely by cylons, who created them? And where did they all go?
What we’re supposed to believe, I think, from the information provided so far is that there were 13 colonies and one left for Earth. While they were gone, somewhere along the way the humans of the 12 colonies created Cylons for military defense. The Cylons revolted, there was a war, and during a 40 year truce the Cylons disappeared and came up with the technology to look human. They struck and that’s where the show picked up. What they’ve now found out is that the 13th colony were Cylons, not humans and apparently they were skin jobs. The corpses in the rubble suggest that they went to war with their own Centurions – just like the humans of Kobol – and they all died in nuclear blasts.
I would say that the original humans of the 12 colonies didn’t know that the 13th were Cylons or if they did, they altered their history because everyone of the 12 colonies grew up believing the stories of the 13th colony of humans going to Earth. It seems obvious that the “final” five were actually the first five seeing as how they died 2,000 years ago on Earth.
What we need to know now is 1. Who created the original Cylons on the 12 colonies that eventually turned against them and caused the war Adama and Tigh fought in? 2.Is it coincidence that the Cylons developed the technology to look human in the 40 years no one had heard from the? We now know that the first five had the knowledge 2000 years ago. 3. Who “flipped the switch” that activated the final four? Was it Ellen? Was she resurrected with her Cylon memories and activated the other four? Why? 4. Where the frak has she been this whole time?